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re: Robert Duvall leaving the GOP

Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Look,I don't have all the answers to this complex issue,but it seems wrong to kill a baby when you can give it to a family that may want a child.


Have you ever given birth?

SO you can't imagine how hard it is to risk your life for a child you want.

Now try to imagine the trauma of risking your life to give birth to a child that a rapist put in side your body.

By all means force rape victims to give birth.

Because that won't destroy her or anything.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:31 pm to
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By the way,here are some polls to look at in regards to the way people feel about abortion. So,you will see I am in the majority. LINK


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The way that poll reads only 20 percent are against abortion....more then 70 are for it in some form.

Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:31 pm to
Jesus, are you really arguing that if one is not a Republican, they're a Democrat?
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:32 pm to
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Robert Duvall leaving the GOP
Leaving over abortion is a poor reason. The Republicans are right about that.



You forgot to include.

...in my opinion.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:35 pm to
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Other questions that NC-Tigah copied and pasted from his earlier post
The questions remain right there . . . waiting . . . unanswered.

You can still try answering them, give it a whirl.

. . . or you can give up, and continue your emoticon posts.

It's your choice.




This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:42 pm to
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Because that won't destroy her or anything.
Poor girl is probably already destroyed. No sense in having to kill the baby too.
Posted by redandright
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:46 pm to
Why should anybody care what a person, whose claim to fame is being an actor, which until about 100 years ago ranked right down there with prostitutes and thieves -usually because they had about the same moral character, thinks.

His thespian talents say absolutely nothing about his judgement, character, or intelligence.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Poor girl is probably already destroyed. No sense in having to kill the baby too.


Your empathy for her plight is overwhelming.

And this guy right here conservatives, is yet another example of why the GOP is dying off.
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:56 pm to
Yea,I know,I must be a horrible person.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:57 pm to
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are you really arguing


Where is he going then? Please enlighten me.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 4:58 pm to
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And this guy right here conservatives, is yet another example of why the GOP is dying off.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:08 pm to
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And this guy right here conservatives, is yet another example of why the GOP is dying off
Well . . . . time will tell. IMO it says much more about influence of religious extremists. With the recent successes of gay activism, atheist activism, etc., religious extremists are a group who better watch out lest they lose any influence they still have.
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:09 pm to
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religious extremists are a group who better watch out lest they lose any influence they still have.


They really shouldn't have any at all, but that's just my opinion.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:17 pm to
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They really shouldn't have any at all, but that's just my opinion.
They should have as much as they reasonably wield. They wield none with Dems, and they just COST the Repubs AT LEAST two Senate seats last cycle. They won nothing. So I'd agree, they really shouldn't have any influence at all.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:21 pm to
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Have you ever given birth?

SO you can't imagine how hard it is to risk your life for a child you want.

Now try to imagine the trauma of risking your life to give birth to a child that a rapist put in side your body.

By all means force rape victims to give birth.

Because that won't destroy her or anything.


I'm not sure why this hurdle is so difficult to get over.

Seem to me that those that want to disallow abortions after a certain week mark that reasonably argue that women can obviously make the decision prior to that point could put in an exception for if the person is a minor victim of rape that perhaps was afraid to tell.

I mean. For an adult who has been raped, they obviously know in plenty of time to get the abortion. I'll bet the number of adult rape victims who wanted an abortion but failed to get one under 20 weeks because they were simply unable in any given year probably wouldn't use up all the fingers on my right hand.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:22 pm to
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You forgot to include.

...in my opinion.


Anyone choosing their political affiliation based sole on abortion is a certifiable moron. EITHER way.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Please enlighten me.
Here's the way this works:

What is Duvall's position regarding government spending?
What is Duvall's position regarding increased taxes?
What is Duvall's position regarding Obamacare?
What is Duvall's position regarding government regulation?
What is Duvall's position regarding expansion of energy independence?
What is Duvall's position regarding IRS targeting?
etc.

Based on one single issue, you said "there is a party that is pro-choice," and Duvall should join it because "he will fit right in." That is dense.

Enlighten yourself.
Try it.
When you imagine you might be there, step it up, and address questions you've ducked. (See above)

Then explain why, as an apparent one-trick-pony, you attempted to claim ambivalence regarding antiabortion extremism.


This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 5:37 pm to
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Based on one single issue, you said "there is a party that is pro-choice," and Duvall should join it because "he will fit right in." That is dense.


Exactly. Many years ago, I was staunchly pro-choice but I was STILL conservative and found Democrats abhorrent.

Now, I'm pro-life. However, even if I were still pro-choice, I'd fit in with Democrats in roughly the same way Sheila Jackson Lee would fit in at a Mensa party.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:36 pm to
GOP does suck but it sounds like Duvall's wife wears the pants in that family.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Anyone choosing their political affiliation based sole on abortion is a certifiable moron. EITHER way.


opinion noted, and ignored.

What you fail to understand, is more then anything else, people who are switching away from the republicans are doing so because they are tired of being told that how they choose to live their lives is immoral. The GOP has allowed the religious right to take over as the messenger. Any good that might come from the non-social planks in the party platform is being drown by that messenger.

Once again, I have zero problem with religion, right up until that point where it begins to meddle in my life. Then we have great problems. And so do the republicans.
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