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re: Pope cut penalties for pedophile priests including letting two off with a prayer

Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:35 pm to
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but the point is that not allowing priests to marry reduces the potential applicant pool to the point its overloaded with homosexuals, those with relationship/emotional issues, and unfortunately pedophiles.


I don't buy this. The priesthood is not overloaded with pedophile small. It has about the same occurrence as protestant clergy who can get married.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:38 pm to
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I don't buy this. The priesthood is not overloaded with pedophile small. It has about the same occurrence as protestant clergy who can get married.



There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:41 pm to
Care to provide any?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:41 pm to
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don't buy this. The priesthood is not overloaded with pedophile small. It has about the same occurrence as protestant clergy who can get married.


Maybe I missed when the protestant churches relocated ministers to avoid scandal and prosecution, paid out millions of dollars to the families of the abused, and organized a cover up that included church leaders at the highest level.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:44 pm to
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Insurance companies, child advocacy groups and religion scholars say there is no evidence that Catholic clergy are more likely to be involved in sexual misconduct than other clergy or professionals. Yet ongoing civil litigation of decades-old cases against a church with deep pockets keeps the Catholic Church in the headlines.

“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed,” said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic who’s studied the church’s abuse problems for 20 years.

Jenkins said there has been no formal study comparing denominations for rates of child abuse. However, insurers have been assessing the risks since they began offering riders on liability policies in the 1980s. Two of the largest insurers report no higher risks in covering Catholic churches than Protestant denominations.



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Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:45 pm to
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Maybe I missed when the protestant churches relocated ministers to avoid scandal and prosecution, paid out millions of dollars to the families of the abused, and organized a cover up that included church leaders at the highest level.


Does this prove that a higher rate of Catholics are pedophiles than Protestants?
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:46 pm to
The supposedly most respected institutions of the world are where the worst frauds and perverts hide out...schools, churches, governments...a nice jewish cell mate of mine taught me that once in prison...
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Church is actually acting like Christ by showing mercy.


I don't think Jesus would approve of shuffling priests around to different parishes rather than banning them outright.

When a divorced person is less worthy of full communion than a pedophile there's a significant problem.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:54 pm to
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Does this prove that a higher rate of Catholics are pedophiles than Protestants?


I think it's sad that this question needs to be asked at all.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:02 pm to
And then there was Dennis Hastert...and I would to name some more politicians, but wisdom has taught me to be more careful in these matters...I like living too much...
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:04 pm to
Of course he did. He's the pope. His whole job is to protect and defend the church . What does some priests diddling with some toddlers have to do with the vast wealth and influence of the church? Green light for child sexual abuse is still on for those paying attention.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:07 pm to
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Keeping your clergy from being able to marry before (and obviously after) ordination ends up attracting some odd cats. Certainly not all of them, but it's more prevalent than it should be.




It's worked for 2000 years, shallow brain

Whats happened lately is that gays infiltrated the priesthood, on purpose, to frick around with each other and then prey on teenaged boys.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:10 pm to
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Maybe I missed when the protestant churches relocated ministers to avoid scandal and prosecution, paid out millions of dollars to the families of the abused, and organized a cover up that included church leaders at the highest level.



Maybe you did. How the frick would you know if you did?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:10 pm to
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What does some priests diddling with some toddlers


Toddlers, huh, Pimp? Your bias is showing.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:11 pm to
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Does this prove that a higher rate of Catholics are pedophiles than Protestants?


No, but it proves that the catholic priesthood was being run to almost be a safe harbor for pedophiles. I believe the full extent of pedophilia in the Catholic church is still unknown, and that the number of priest pedophiles that avoided discovery out numbers those for which the statistics are based.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:11 pm to
not trying to start a "flame religion" thing here, but isn't that the essence of the christian doctrine? ... just ask forgiveness? ... repent and you shall be healed? ... cheat on your wife, commit fraud or steal, say/think/do something completely antiethical to jesus, but that ace up your sleeve saves you?

and i think pedophiles cannot be rehabbed and at a minimum should get life in prison ... execution in many instances ...
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 8:12 pm
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:11 pm to
This pope is seriously making me consider non denominational...
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
Not really an ace. God forgives but you have to stop doing the shite
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
Remember lesson #1...it's the money....if my memory of history is correct the church didn't want to financially support wives and children, or deal with giving up money upon death of the priest..anyway, the Catholic church has never been about anything but money , power, and control of the poor poor simple minds that can't muster up any courage to breakaway...it's truly a sad mark against homo sapiens...
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:17 pm to
The Catholic church has had a huge black eye regarding pedophilia & child molestation for a long, long time. That being said, Pope Francis is arguably the worst leader they've ever had.

I have my doubts that he was even chosen Pope under legitimate circumstances.
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