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Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:52 am to monsterballads
quote:Well, considering he didn't say ALL MUSLIMS and made it a point to talk about ISIS directly, the idea of converting them to moderate Islam seems quite reasonable.
what was he referring to?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:52 am to genro
quote:
He didn't say, but the reasonable assumption is frickING ANYTHING ELSE.
stupid
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:55 am to monsterballads
quote:I have expressed the exact same sentiment. We need to convert, modernize, or kill them. I am not a Christian. So I am taking his words for what they are, not applying my own prejudices to them based on my perception of him or evangelicals in general. You're doing that. You're the dishonest, prejudiced one.
you're not being intellectually honest
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:55 am to Erin Go Bragh
There are some dumb responses in this thread.
Someone show me Phil Robertson sawing a person's head off.
Someone show me where he said ALL people EVERYWHERE must convert or die.
In context, he wants to stop the threat of terrorism. He wants to DEFEND this country against killers who kill in the name of religion.
He is simply saying, since Christianity today is peaceful, if they can't be converted to a PEACEFUL world view and stop killing us, then they should be killed in the name of THE UNITED STATES.
He's stating the opposite of a Holy War.
Learn. To. Read. People.
Someone show me Phil Robertson sawing a person's head off.
Someone show me where he said ALL people EVERYWHERE must convert or die.
In context, he wants to stop the threat of terrorism. He wants to DEFEND this country against killers who kill in the name of religion.
He is simply saying, since Christianity today is peaceful, if they can't be converted to a PEACEFUL world view and stop killing us, then they should be killed in the name of THE UNITED STATES.
He's stating the opposite of a Holy War.
Learn. To. Read. People.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:59 am to genro
quote:
He didn't say, but the reasonable assumption is frickING ANYTHING ELSE.
Considering the speaker - Phil Robertson - and the use of the word convert you believe he meant something other than religious conversion to Christianity?
Sure, anything is possible, but it's Phil fricking Robertson.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:59 am to theunknownknight
quote:
if they can't be converted to a PEACEFUL world view
reading between the lines, he wants them to convert to his religion. or have the US government kill them.
that is what he is saying. no one is talking about phil chopping off anyones head.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:00 am to theunknownknight
Everyone read together how Phil began his statement:
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
Got it? Good. No lets have a logical discussion over what he really said and not some sensational BS.
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
"In this case…"
Got it? Good. No lets have a logical discussion over what he really said and not some sensational BS.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:01 am to cwill
quote:
Considering the speaker - Phil Robertson - and the use of the word convert you believe he meant something other than religious conversion to Christianity?
Sure, anything is possible, but it's Phil fricking Robertson.
exactly. at this point, i have to believe these posters are just being willfully obtuse. i'm sure robertson would have NO PROBLEM clarifying what he meant by "convert"
what does everyone think he meant? I'm quite certain when he says "convert" he's talking about converting them to his religion.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:01 am to cwill
quote:Well, at least you admit it.
Considering the speaker - Phil Robertson - and the use of the word convert you believe he meant something other than religious conversion to Christianity?
Sure, anything is possible, but it's Phil fricking Robertson.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:03 am to theunknownknight
quote:
then they should be killed in the name of THE UNITED STATES.
And that is one thing that contributed to the formation of ISIS. So say we kill every current member of ISIS. What then? Y'all do realize another radical group will just form and continue the cyle, right?
Will the circle be unbroken?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:03 am to monsterballads
quote:
you're not being intellectually honest
Except that your interpretation is the least reasonable, least supported by context, and easily the most sensational.
You are just crawfishing. You aren't going to admit now that you jumped to a conclusion because it suited your agenda to do so.
I have zero love for Phil Robertson and evangelicals, but Christ, the intellectual dishonesty from YOU and others in this thread is truly pathetic.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:03 am to genro
quote:
“You either have to convert them — which I think would be next to impossible. I’m not giving up on them, but I’m just saying, either convert them or kill them,”
let's make a bet. I bet phil is talking about converting to his christianity, the one true belief system in his eyes.
you want to bet he's talking about another religion or way of thinking?
that doesn't make any sense
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:04 am to The Spleen
quote:
Y'all do realize another radical group will just form and continue the cyle, right?
oh absolutely. ron paul was dead on when he spoke about blowback.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am to monsterballads
Good god man. You have Phil Robertson all figured out, you know exactly what goes on in his evil evangelical little head. You're incredibly prejudiced. The best part of this you totally admit you make a prejudicial leap of faith. Some other person could say literally the exact same thing and you would agree with it. Ipso facto, you're prejudiced.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am to ChewyDante
quote:
Except that your interpretation is the least reasonable, least supported by context, and easily the most sensational.
what was he talking about then? converting to what?
given all we know about phil. what would you think he's talking about?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:06 am to monsterballads
How is him saying convert any different than the millions around the world that are saying they should give up their extremist views or die? At least Phil gave an alternative of converting to something else ( we can only assume he meant Christianity)
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:06 am to genro
so you honestly think phil wasn't talking about converting to christ?
you really believe that?
you really believe that?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:07 am to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:
we can only assume he meant Christianity
I think any honest person would.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:07 am to monsterballads
Tell me why I should believe that?
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