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re: Obama Cuts Hazard Pay for Soldiers Serving in Harm’s Way
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:37 pm to Jake88
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:37 pm to Jake88
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Why not lay off some of the desk jockey bureaucrats that bloat the military instead?
Exactly! Or send someone to Ace to buy a hammer instead of paying $500 for it.
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:38 pm to OleWar
Are the troops at Ft. Hood eligible for IDP ?
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:41 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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We have a volunteer professional armed forces. No one is forced to join the service. You are explained the benefits and pay before you join.
So you're opposed to minimum wage? Nobody is forced to work for a particular employer. You know the benefits and pay before you join. And unlike the military, you can walk off the job anytime you want.
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The unfortunate truth is that many join because they feel they have no other educational or career opportunities. Many join to pay for college and training or join because they have no other opportunities. This disproportionally impacts the poor, minorities, and the working class of all races.
Bull. There are other opportunities like skilled trades, community colleges, etc. People who join the military for education/training do it because they feel it's the best deal, not the only deal. And combat casualties are NOT disproportionately form the lower socioeconomic classes.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:45 pm to Homesick Tiger
I never understood why I was going to get a full month of IDP when I was redeploying home on the second day of the month; the same amount as the guys we were passing at the ADAG who were coming in country. I'd say this is a non-issue. Having said that IDP should be higher.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:16 pm to Homesick Tiger
I know literally nothing about military pay, so excuse my ignorance. But why exactly should someone receive a months worth of hazard pay if they are only in this location for, lets say, 5 days out the month?
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:04 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Because the DoD is one big tent full of jealousy. So what do you tell a B-52 crew during Vietnam that is flying out of Guam maybe 10 times a month, they only get 1/3rd the hazardous duty pay when their job at the time entailed more risk then the Air Traffic control guy in DaDang. Well you could tell them STFU you get flight pay, but that is not very nice. Then terrorists strike some rear area that was seemingly not hazardous and then everyone who has a marginal terrorist threat in their area needs it.
So it was just easy to give it for the month, and all the flag officers could then plan their trips into country around the end and beginnings of the month and bank.
So it was just easy to give it for the month, and all the flag officers could then plan their trips into country around the end and beginnings of the month and bank.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:05 pm to onmymedicalgrind
So Air Force Colonels can fly their cargo plane into Kabul, spend an hour on the ground dropping g cargo and getting gas, then fly back home and get combat pay and the whole month's pay check tax free.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:07 pm to Homesick Tiger
I wish he would lay off some secret service, since the world is such a safe place. He could probably let his daughters walk around Detroit unescorted too. I'm so glad we have world peace.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:09 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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So Air Force Colonels can fly their cargo plane into Kabul, spend an hour on the ground dropping g cargo and getting gas, then fly back home and get combat pay and the whole month's pay check tax free.
I thought combat pay was always prorated, and the one day a month rule was just tax free? I might be misremembering.
edit- looked it up, I'm wrong. Maybe I was thinking of family sep.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:17 pm to TT9
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When you combine Iraq and Afghanistan, both wars bush started, far more troops were killed under bush's watch.
Bush didn't start either of them
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:21 pm to Choctaw
quote:Wow. That's loyalty. And Saddam was really building nukes and helped Al Qaeda plan 9/11 right?
Bush didn't start either of them
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:21 pm to northshorebamaman
Also, this story is from 2011.
LINK
And it also includes this: "Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225."
LINK
And it also includes this: "Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225."
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:18 am to Big12fan
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I don't have a problem with it considering that combat missions are actually winding down
Dumb post...
Sorry but you can't make that call sitting on your couch eating potato chips.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:25 am to Lsut81
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Sounds like a smart business move.
Business move?? That's what the military is to you?
Go visit Arlington one day and then try to say its a business. Plenty of us in the military are missing our first Father's Day with a chance of getting killed, and Obama wants to take away a little extra pay on top of our 40k salary.
Sorry, I get really defensive about these things. It's easy to judge military life from the outside but you don't see the hardships day in and day out.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 1:21 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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The unfortunate truth is that many join because they feel they have no other educational or career opportunities. Many join to pay for college and training or join because they have no other opportunities. This disproportionally impacts the poor, minorities, and the working class of all races.
at you. Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:12 pm to mmcgrath
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Wow. That's loyalty. And Saddam was really building nukes and helped Al Qaeda plan 9/11 right?
The Taliban started the Afghan War by harboring AQ and aiding and abetting the 9/11 attacks.
Saddam started the Iraq War in 1990 when he invaded Kuwait.
ETA: And I say that as someone who can't stand the Bushes.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:48 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Why are defense cuts made at the soldier's expense? I would think that any place that you have to inhabit while walking around with a rifle in your hands would be considered hazardous.
A) This news is over two fricking years old. GERMANS to you.
B) It only cuts imminent danger pay for time NOT in imminent danger. Paying imminent danger pay for time NOT in imminent danger is something a fiscally responsible person would call stupid.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:49 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The Taliban started the Afghan War by harboring AQ and aiding and abetting the 9/11 attacks.
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Saddam started the Iraq War in 1990 when he invaded Kuwait.
Didn't you get the memo? The U.S. Ok'd Hussein's 1990 invasion of Iraq!
LINK /
Of course you don't need Ron Paul to tell you that. We've known it from the start:
“We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America." - U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie to Iraq just before Iraq invaded Kuwait.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:52 pm to Homesick Tiger
Jesus Christ people are you that fricking heartless that you can't give someone 7.50 cent a fricking day? I dont care if they only spent 3 days there then left. Its very little money and its something these folks depend on since Obama loves cutting everything else they have. Spend any time in a war zone for shitty fricking pay that gets cut then you pussys come back and tell me how you like it. Not only are you killing troop morale but you are hurting their families by taking money away from them. But y'all have no problem giving to the lazy welfare bitch getting her hair and nails done who doesn't work and just shoots out more kids for more money. You fricking people I swear.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:43 pm to Big12fan
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its easy and cost effective
dear lord
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