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re: NYPD cops refuse to turn and face mayor as he walks into hospital

Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Scum bag uneducated low life cops...what's new ?

In large part because of the great work of NYPD, New York became the most crime-free city of a population of 500,000 or more in the history of the world. With 49,000+ employees, there will obviously be a bad seed here and there, but frick you.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:56 pm to
racistsafety has proven himself to be a moron of the worse kind throughout this ferguson/cop ordeal. just ignore
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:51 pm to
The Mayor chose to separate himself from the NYPD and side with the agitators for political reasons and now that there are two murdered cops, there are consequences for him to face.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:02 pm to
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The Mayor chose to separate himself from the NYPD and side with the agitators for political reasons and now that there are two murdered cops, there are consequences for him to face.
Why does he have to choose between supporting law enforcement or protestors? Is acknowledging the concerns of one community necessarily abandoning the other? Seems to me like the NYPD is, and has been, indifferent to the concerns of those their policing. Their defensive and hostile reaction to criticism is part of the problem, and contributes to the current environment. That mentality needs to change, across law enforcement. They don't get to demand absolute loyalty to the exclusion of citizens' concerns.

They won't be welcome in the communities they're policing, good intentions or not, if they're indifferent to, and removed from, the concerns of the people they're policing.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:29 pm to
The NYPD union did not support the mayor, as he was against the "stop & frisk" law that the previous major instituted. The mayor attacked the union all during his election & they did not support him. And now never will even though he is their "supreme commander".
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:32 pm to
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The Mayor chose to separate himself from the NYPD


Did he separate from the entire department or just "rear naked choke" cop? I can see how he had to separate himself from situation and not take a side really.

The actions of one dumbass cop and one psycho frick should not fester like this. There hasn't been enough time to fester.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:48 pm to
I wish cops all across the country would protest by refusing to write petty tickets.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:57 pm to
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In large part because of the great work of NYPD, New York became the most crime-free city of a population of 500,000 or more in the history of the world. With 49,000+ employees, there will obviously be a bad seed here and there, but frick you
Eloquently put!!
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:19 pm to
My view of the cops is rather complicated. On one hand I am in opposition to their militarization and their increasing function as a fund raising entity via traffic tickets.

Having said that, when it is "pick a side" time, I'm going with the cops. I'll support the cops a million times before I support a bunch of thugs and a bunch of shitty millennials that think their only route to cultural relevance is to sanction and support ridiculous, false narratives regarding race in 2014 America that have been implemented by hard core leftists for the purposes of deconstructing the fabric of our society so that it can be rebuilt in their pathogical image. They are silly pawns in a destructive plan.

This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:21 pm to
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My view of the cops is rather complicated. On one hand I am in opposition to their militarization and their increasing function as a fund raising entity via traffic tickets. Having said that, when it is "pick a side" time, I'm going with the cops. I'll support the cops a million times before I support a bunch of thugs and a bunch of shitty millennials that think their only route to cultural relevancy is to sanction and support ridiculous, false narratives regarding race in 2014 America that have been implemented for the purposes of deconstructing the fabric of this country. They are silly pawns in a destructive plan.



TROOF!
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:23 pm to
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My view of the cops is rather complicated. On one hand I am in opposition to their militarization and their increasing function as a fund raising entity via traffic tickets.

Having said that, when it is "pick a side" time, I'm going with the cops. I'll support the cops a million times before I support a bunch of thugs and a bunch of shitty millennials that think their only route to cultural relevancy is to sanction and support ridiculous, false narratives regarding race in 2014 America that have been implemented for the purposes of deconstructing the fabric of this country. They are silly pawns in a destructive plan.
You have probably barely paid attention to anything De Blasio has actually said or done and are just going along with the flow.

This applies to 80% of the posters in this thread.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:25 pm to
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You have probably barely paid attention to anything De Blasio has actually said or done and are just going along with the flow. This applies to 80% of the posters in this thread.
Which doesn't mean frick concerning his statement.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:27 pm to
I don't recall mentioning Deblassio.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:30 pm to
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I don't recall mentioning Deblassio.

You must be drinking heavily.

You, on this very page:

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The Mayor chose to separate himself from the NYPD and side with the agitators for political reasons and now that there are two murdered cops, there are consequences for him to face.

This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123828 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:48 pm to
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You have probably barely paid attention to anything De Blasio has actually said or done
So I'll ask you the same question asked to another poster, why does the NYPD HATE the Mayor at this point?

If Mayor deBlasio is really working constructively with NYPD to ensure officer safety and effectiveness, why the HATE?

Of course in reality DeBlasio is not working constructively with the NYPD. In fact he is working far more closely with organizers responsible for pushing the "hands up -- and -- i can't breathe" narrative, than he is with the NYPD. Those individuals are same organizers whipping the community into a disabling frenzy which has concomitantly led to officer endangerment, injury, and death.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:02 pm to
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So I'll ask you the same question asked to another poster, why does the NYPD HATE the Mayor at this point?
They, like every other unionized government work force, are unaccustomed to criticism. Rather than acknowledge and address the concerns of the mayor and protestors, they have dismissed those concerns as cop hating and played victim, for weeks before this. Rather than accept any responsibility for the anti cop atmosphere in New York City minority communities, that has existed for quite a long time before De Blasio said anything at all, they have shifted all blame for that atmosphere onto others.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:23 pm to
I did not reference the mayor in the post you were responding to. The post that you responded to made no reference to the mayor. It was in a completely different vein.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123828 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:38 pm to
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They, like every other unionized government work force, are unaccustomed to criticism
So no other Mayor in the country contends with unions. No other mayor of a major city has criticized his/her Police Force and/or Police Union. I'm just asking. Because if, as you say, this is like every other unionized government work force interface, it certainly seems uniquely caustic.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:45 pm to
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So no other Mayor in the country contends with unions.
Christie and Walker, both as governors, have reformed teachers unions and received similar treatment. If Walker hadn't deliberately exempted law enforcement from his reforms, he likely would have received the same from them. The response is only unique in it's vitriol if you limit it to police unions, something I think is a huge mistake.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123828 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 6:51 pm to
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Christie and Walker, both as governors, have reformed teachers unions and received similar treatment.
Christie and Walker both aggressively attacked their teacher's unions. They aimed to "break them". The claim here is that deBlasio has done nothing of the sort.
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