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TN Bhoy
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NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings

How the frick is this a "human rights" violation? And why does NM have a "human rights act?"

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SANTA FE, N.M. — A commercial photography business owned by opponents of same-sex marriage violated New Mexico's anti-discrimination law by refusing to take pictures of a gay couple's commitment ceremony, the state's highest court ruled Thursday.

In an unanimous decision, the state Supreme Court said the business's refusal in 2006 to photograph the ceremony involving two women violated New Mexico's Human Rights Act "in the same way as if it had refused to photograph a wedding between people of different races."





LSURussian
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
But Toddy promised us things like this wouldn't happen.....


burdman
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involving two women violated New Mexico's Human Rights Act "in the same way as if it had refused to photograph a wedding between people of different races."


When did homosexual become a race? I keep seeing it being compared to a race.

That being said, I'd take the pictures. Not going to pass up money because someone is ghey.


Boats n Hose
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
So businesses don't have the right to fefise service to anyone?

And yea I'd take the money, idaf about sexual orientation.


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Justice Richard Bosson wrote that the business owners "have to channel their conduct, not their beliefs, so as to leave space for other Americans who believe something different."

"That compromise is part of the glue that holds us together as a nation, the tolerance that lubricates the varied moving parts of us a people," Bosson wrote in an opinion concurring with the court's ruling. "That sense of respect we owe others, whether or not we believe as they do, illuminates this country, setting it apart from the discord that afflicts much of the rest of the world. In short, I would say to the Huguenins, with the utmost respect: it is the price of citizenship."




As someone who supports gay marriage, this is insane.

This judge needs to realize that people don't belong to you.


burdman
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So businesses don't have the right to fefise service to anyone?


Where did I say they shouldn't? I could careless who someone wants to sleep with, I just don't get why a sexual orientation is the same thing as race.


DvlsAdvocat
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
I'm all for gays having the same spousal/legal/whatever rights as hetero couples, and I also believe that a business owner should have the right to accept or decline whatever business opportunities they want. This ruling is extremely misguided.


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Green Chili Tiger
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States rights supporters rejoice!


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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
Justice Bosson seems unclear on the concept of rights. The right to free association includes the right to not associate. Rights do not require compromise. If his reasoning is valid, then there is conscientious objection is no excuse from military service in a combat unit. Objectors just "have to channel their conduct, not their beliefs."


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lsuprof
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
Now that the case has worked its way completely through the New Mexico courts, the photographers in question should pursue this case through the federal courts. This case raises constitutional issues that could be pursued at the federal level.


Sentrius
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States rights


Is still oppressive here.


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WalkingTurtles
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
This will undoubtedly be overturned at the federal level. It's a gross violation of the constitution and common sense rolled into one. You cannot force a private citizen or business to associate or support a particular sexual orientation. This is absurd.


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Tigerlaff
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Hey, they wrote the law. I don't support it, but states' rights.


Tigerlaff
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Now that the case has worked its way completely through the New Mexico courts, the photographers in question should pursue this case through the federal courts. This case raises constitutional issues that could be pursued at the federal level.


This.


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Taxing Authority
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
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In an unanimous decision, the state Supreme Court said the business's refusal in 2006 to photograph the ceremony involving two women violated New Mexico's Human Rights Act "in the same way as if it had refused to photograph a wedding between people of different races."
Absurd. What if a photographer turned down a heterosexual couple? Wouldn't they be entitled to the same protection? On short... Who could a photographer turn down? And if a photographer cannot turn anyone down... Do they have to work all the time?

F*ck this. I'm all for gheys doing whatever they want in their own private lives. But why can't they respect the photographers wishes to do the same?

I don't get it. What makes the ghey's private life choices superior to the photographer's?

Sick.


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MMauler
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This one is easy -- just tie one on the night before and do shitty pictures.


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Hey, they wrote the law. I don't support it, but states' rights.



You do understand that two judges can interpret the same law two completely different ways even at the state level right?


Taxing Authority
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re: NM SC: Photographers can't refuse homosexual weddings
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Justice Richard Bosson wrote that the business owners "have to channel their conduct, not their beliefs, so as to leave space for other Americans who believe something different."
why don't gheys have to "channel their conduct, so as to leave space for other Americans who believe something different?"

Where is their exemption?


Tigerlaff
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You do understand that two judges can interpret the same law two completely different ways even at the state level right?


Of course I do. The issue here is not what "could" have happened, but what the final arbiter of NM law, the NMSC, did decide.
This post was edited on 8/22 at 4:50 pm


Green Chili Tiger
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You do understand that two judges can interpret the same law two completely different ways even at the state level right?



It was a unanimous decision and the New Mexico Human Rights Act "guarantees full and equal services and accomodations to all people regardless of race, religion, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, spousal affiliation or physical or mental handicap".

How many different ways can you interperate that?


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