re: Need an explanation on homosexuality

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It does occur for sure. but if you can not conclude that it's unnatural, then can you explain to the rest of us how it is natural?

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Puberty.

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How many of you would trust a gay male teen to babysit your children?

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I would, and have. Both of my kids took swim lessons from a homosexual male around 18 or 19. They loved him, and he loved them. He also babysat them a couple of times. No issues.

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The fact is a lot of people who are homosexuals were sexually abused as children.

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So were a lot of heterosexuals, so not sure where you're going with this.

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If we are honest, we all have a sin problem.

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Of course we do, which makes it all the more curious that many Christians elevate homosexuality "sin" to a such a lofty one, and use that "sin" to work so feverishly to deny them equal rights. That's why so many are labeled ignorant and bigots.

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For you. Apparently that a sexuality is right or wrong is part of the moral code by which you have chosen to live.

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It's part of EVERYONE'S moral code.

Unless, of course, you think that it's perfectly fine and "normal" to have sex with goats, dogs, cats, kids, etc.

If you are fine with homosexuality, beastiality, pedophilia, etc. it's still part of your moral code -- it's just that you don't have much of a moral code.

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Ball, I know you probably won't like scripture quoted in response to your post

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Please do not lie about me. Thank you.

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but if God is not permitted into the conversation, then what "moral code or value" are we actually talking about? A code we created for ourselves? Really?

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Whatever moral code you want. It is your decision. Your moral code aligns with your interpretation of the Bible. This was entirely your decision. Morality predates religion. It does not come from the Bible. The opposite, in fact, is true.

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I would, and have. Both of my kids took swim lessons from a homosexual male around 18 or 19. They loved him, and he loved them. He also babysat them a couple of times. No issues.

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Most Gays I have met are very nice people...

Most sitters are not 19 years old however...they are closer to 15-16...Regardless of known sexual orientation, I think knowing the family and the teen is best way to have a comfort and peace of who is watching over your children.

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So were a lot of heterosexuals, so not sure where you're going with this.

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And the ones I know from church over a 20 years span struggle with homosexual thoughts from being sexually abused as a preteen by an uncle or another male... these men I know are in the 50's. Been married to a woman for 30 years and have grown children. These encounters haunt them their entire lives. It's a mind game that rages war sometimes.

Look, as a Christian we actually talk to fellow believers beyond the weather and sporting events. We actually talk about our deepest fears and struggles and thoughts that plague us...So that's how I know the impact of sexual abuse. It never fully goes away, it's a life long battle to manage the scars it created...

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Of course we do, which makes it all the more curious that many Christians elevate homosexuality "sin" to a such a lofty one, and use that "sin" to work so feverishly to deny them equal rights. That's why so many are labeled ignorant and bigots.

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I am going to agree with you on this one. The issue is the world wants to glorify this lifestyle under the tent of "Equality". It's hard for Christians who also have a voice and vote will show up and vote against things they don't' believe in. Its' direct conflict with their conscious of what society should consider "normal"

the lord Jesus would just say "go and sin no more"... but the world is saying "what are you talking about Jesus, this is who I am".

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I live in Alabama and my core principles are that homosexuality is wrong.

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Shocking.

And I love how this thread has 4 times as many upvotes as downvotes.

Why are Christian nut jobs like you so obsessed with homosexuality? Is it to compensate for the pervasive history of priests molesting young boys?

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The morals of a society though are determined by the majority, and right now the prevailing opinion is shifting towards homosexuality being moral.

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You're incorrect in two ways and here's why.


Liberal California voted for that in 2008, and so did red Texas in 2005. From 1998 to 2012—not say, from 1870 to 1890, or some other long-gone time period—34 states voted on defining marriage as being between a man and a woman—and only three voted against it.

And now the will of the people is being struck down by judge after judge.

Numbers like those do not lie, the majority of Americans clearly want marriage to remain between one man and one woman but supporters of the gay agenda are usurping the will of the majority via the courts. So not only are you wrong about the majority being allowed to determine the moral code of society, you're also wrong about the majority shifting towards homosexuality being moral.

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How is it "unnatural"? Does it not occur in nature?

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I would assume then eating tasty offspring of another member of the group is also natural? I think natural is meant by the former poster as something considered normal and accepted by the group. That being said, natural does not make something good or bad. Homosexuality is a societal more, and as such will be determined by society, with such society receiving the benefits/detriments it brings. We shall see, won't we?

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Please explain to me how that is ignorance.

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You are just ignorant of the fine and fabulous essence of fecal coli. You'll get there eventually. It's like hating your first taste of scotch at age 19 and trying it again at 29 and loving it.