re: Need an explanation on homosexuality

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So if a heterosexual doesn't fully support the gay agenda you think their a bigot.

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Just people who make attempts to suppress their civil rights like marriage and enact statuary legislation that restrict their ability to start a family with their partner. And there's also people that derogatorily make fun of what makes them gay and I see this all the time when they focus only on the male homosexual act.

Besides, there is no big gay agenda. They just want the freedom to marry and being able to adopt kids and then live their lives. That's it.

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Does that not also mean that a homosexual who does not support what can be described as the heterosexual agenda as a bigot as well?

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How is it "unnatural"? Does it not occur in nature?

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It does occur for sure. but if you can not conclude that it's unnatural, then can you explain to the rest of us how it is natural?

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Pedophilia is harmful, abusive, and dangerous towards children, homosexuality is not

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So how does that pervert from Penn State fit into your line of thinking?

Easy, he was a pedophile.

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So how does that pervert from Penn State fit into your line of thinking?

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He was a pedophile. Just happened to be a pedophile piece of shite that liked little boys instead of a heterosexual pedophile piece of shite that likes little girls.

You're out of line for comparing homosexuality with pedophilia btw. Shame on you.

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Oh look, another disgusting bigot trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia.

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Kind of made a quick jump didn't you? I asked a question

Read the post I replied to... then you can apologize for being a jerk to me.

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I am not comparing but earlier in the post someone tried to say homosexuality was "natural".

How many of you would trust a gay male teen to babysit your children? I am must curious since "it's normal".

That pedophile was married with children of his own.

he was "normal" from the outside in every way, but he had a dark side like no other.

The fact is a lot of people who are homosexuals were sexually abused as children.

Not all, but many.

If we are honest, we all have a sin problem. Homosexuality is just easier to flag and say "That's wrong".

It's become an issue because homosexuals are bent on declaring it "normal" to point of marriage for the sake of equality.

that's my only issue with the so called movement

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And there it is. I swear, some of you are too retarded to fricking draw breath.

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And yes it is right or wrong.

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For you. Apparently that a sexuality is right or wrong is part of the moral code by which you have chosen to live. I suppose that you could argue that since I am heterosexual, it would be immoral for me to have sex with a man since that would be a perversion of my natural sexuality. I don't see it quite that way since I don't even go that far; the reason I don't have sex with men is out of lack of interest in them and not because of a moral code I have chosen.

Likewise, if a gay man who is in a committed, monogamous, homosexual relationship with another man, I can see an argument that having sex with a woman (ie, anything other than "his" man) is immoral. He has chosen to step out of his commitment sexually.

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That is highly debatable

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Sexuality itself is not a moral value. It simply isn't what those sets of words mean. This is not debatable. It is obvious that most of us place some moral value on our sexualities, but that comes from our consciences; these moral values are made by us and are not synonymous with sexuality itself. These moral values are good, say I.

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Always attempting to make it fit their novel perfectly.

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The way you feel about these things is your decision entirely, and your responsibility, too. Not theirs.

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why most think this is the proper term to use and for what reasons. Where does the root of lack of knowledge descend from when discussing one who is heterosexual's preference on life?

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Don't know, don't care. I'm a grown man and don't have the unhealthy focus on the sexuality of others that you have. If this kind of thing is on the radar for you, it is because you have put it there.

My advice: be yourself, be happy, and be honest, and this stuff will never bother you.

Your concern re greater societal Principle may be just, AU...but until you are harmed by the belief/action of an individual/group...your "agreement" is really a moral judgment. Of the which a particular, spiritual Book...discourages. Because one may not see all the angles.

The mind of a particular individual is as diverse as the limbs on a particular tree. Oaks are Oaks and Cypress are Cypress...they have common/recognizable traits but infinitely variable characteristics.

Humanity is going to go everywhere possible; we need to know. Morality is basically a grouping of ideas/actions that successfully promote the survival and prosperity of the individual and humanity. As times change, what was moral (practical) back when...may be impractical or even counter-productive today. Every single human is genetically imbued with ideas which - if acted upon - promote disharmony and impede the survival and prosperity of the group. I'm genetically inclined to run off with your wife...if she's attractive (to me). In today's world...that could be good...or bad. All depending on the outcome. But breaking up family allegiances and promoting societal instability surely would not have been good back in the day when the Bible was written. Society was much more tight nit and dependent.

Bottom line...regarding morality, it is up to the Individual to educate themselves and make choices/actions as to the greater impact that their beliefs/actions have on both their own spiritual advancement...and that of the Society at large. If they care about the health of the Group, over and above their own eccentric desires.

Regarding homo-sexuality - in today's world - I suspect that cellphones/social media do more to negatively impact the greater stability and prosperity of the social construct, individual psyches, and the Collective...than moral catfights re which body cavity particular folks/groups find psychologically preferable.

'Adam' left the 'Garden' to get a complete education; God allowed such a choice, for good reason. Philosophically, everybody has a right to find out for themselves. And in this Universe, we all will be affected to some degree, by other people's choices. More a matter of how being affected...affects one's own creation of personal character and vision. After all...we are captive to and live within the confines of our own minds and the subjective Reality which we create.

Eye on the ball!

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Homosexuality isn't unnatural and it isn't "wrong" per se. It's simply a mental disorder. Always has been, always will be regardless of what the quacks at the APA say.

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