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re: Life for Christians in Iraq worse now than under Sadaam
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:43 pm to genro
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:43 pm to genro
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And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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- But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Also john 3:18
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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I mean, you can make some mental gymnastics if you want, but it looks pretty cut and dry to me
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:47 pm
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:45 pm to Wild Thang
I always find the idea of atheist intriguing....
Where did we come from? Evolution for sure no doubt.
Where did the fish/monkeys come from? Cells, Protons, particles, etc....
Where did those come from? Big Bang Theory type of stuff ( probably true).
How did the Bg Bang actually happen though? If there was nothing, then how did that just 'happen'?
LOL
No fricking answer.
Where did we come from? Evolution for sure no doubt.
Where did the fish/monkeys come from? Cells, Protons, particles, etc....
Where did those come from? Big Bang Theory type of stuff ( probably true).
How did the Bg Bang actually happen though? If there was nothing, then how did that just 'happen'?
LOL
No fricking answer.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:52 pm to Revelator
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You don't know this.
Neither do you or anyone else, which begs the question as to why God would leave such a huge plot hole unanswered.
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We don't know how the souls
of those who lived before the crucifixion will be judged.
The Torah actually lays it out pretty well. Hint: The jews don't believe in hell.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:54 pm to Revelator
It's almost like the whole region was a lot more stable before we went in there like cowboys and destabilized it. Funny how things work.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:55 pm to Tiguar
Uh, was that Revelations? Oh lawd.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:55 pm to Wild Thang
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How did the Bg Bang actually happen though? If there was nothing, then how did that just 'happen'?
LOL
No fricking answer.
I love when the god squad shows up and starts talking out of their asses.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:56 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's almost like the whole region was a lot more stable before we went in there like cowboys and destabilized it.
It was a bastion of stabilty.
The last 2000 years have been just peachy over there.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:56 pm to asurob1
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I love when the god squad shows up and starts talking out of their asses.
Answer that question for me though?
ETA: Just in case....
How did nothing become the Big Bang? How did that happen?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:57 pm to Wild Thang
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How did the Big Bang actually happen though? If there was nothing, then how did that just 'happen'?
First of all, there actually are theories regarding this. Books like "A universe from Nothing" lay out plausible scientific scenarios for an expansion out of essentially "nothing".
Second, if we say God did it then that begs the question of where God comes from? If we say he is eternal, why not simply skip a step and say the universe is eternal?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:57 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's almost like the whole region was a lot more stable before we went in there like cowboys and destabilized it. Funny how things work.
ding ding ding ding.
You answered Karla's homework assignment.
See when you upset the balance...it throws everything off.
Bush the younger didn't understand that...he was sure he was bring Democracy and God to the ...ahem...natives.
Didn't quite work out like he thought it would.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:58 pm to Revelator
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
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"A universe from Nothing" lay out plausible scientific scenarios for an expansion out of essentially "nothing".
And what would that be? And how would that be scientific?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:06 pm to asurob1
What happened in Egypt had nothing to do with Iraq. You either don't know your history, asurob, or else you're playing dumb in order to avoid acknowledging your boy Barack's abysmal failure at trying to prop up those Muslim Brotherhood thugs in Egypt.
I guess you thought Obama handled that correctly?
(not that I'm expecting a coherent response).
I guess you thought Obama handled that correctly?
(not that I'm expecting a coherent response).
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:06 pm to Wild Thang
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And what would that be? And how would that be scientific?
It's not scientific but faith!
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:06 pm to Wild Thang
Basically, it involves the detectable ability of subatomic particles to spontaneously pop into and out of existence in a vacuum. The idea that matter cannot be created or destroyed is not technically true, though it is effectively true on the scales relevant to us. The (overly simplified) idea is that the creation of the universe was the sum of these quantum fluctuations. We can observe and measure spontaneous energy generation from spontaneous atomic generation in vacuums in laboratories. The energy emerges effectively from no prior starting point or precursor.
Here's a lecture from the author on the topic if you are interested:
LINK
Here's a lecture from the author on the topic if you are interested:
LINK
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:07 pm to Revelator
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It's not scientific but faith!
A leap of faith if you will.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:08 pm to Wild Thang
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A leap of faith if you will
A Quantum Leap!
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Here's a lecture from the author on the topic if you are interested:
And, do you need to take a leap of faith to believe that this lecture explains how nothing became something?
Sounds like science has no answer to my question, without taking crazy leaps of faith!
Irony.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:10 pm to Revelator
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A Quantum Leap!
Great show.
There is where we should look for answers!!!!
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:11 pm to Revelator
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It's not scientific but faith!
The proposed mechanisms are reproducible in experimental systems.
Sure the actual event is not provable, but the ability for it to happen is supported by evidence.
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