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re: Let's talk about Rand Paul and his insistence on voting "no" on virtually everything
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:36 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:36 am to ProjectP2294
Hold on, you post this
Then this
So you know his constituents are as a majority in his corner every time he makes a decision? Then you say "compromising his beliefs". What all of a sudden happened to his constituents belief?
I'd never hate on Troy Aikman for being a team player but as much as I like the guy, I'd never support him either if he were a "me" player.
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He should be doing what is in the best interest of his constituents
Then this
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not compromising his beliefs to cater to some arbitrary label.
So you know his constituents are as a majority in his corner every time he makes a decision? Then you say "compromising his beliefs". What all of a sudden happened to his constituents belief?
I'd never hate on Troy Aikman for being a team player but as much as I like the guy, I'd never support him either if he were a "me" player.
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:39 am to PrimeTime Money
I'm fine with nothing getting passed. As I've said before, "compromise" and "bipartisan" usually mean I'm about to get fricked.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:40 am to PrimeTime Money
He is seldom a team player, even when the team gets something right.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:40 am to OMLandshark
quote:But isn't it interesting to watch the geniuses on this board constantly bitch and moan about the establishment, and then criticize the one politician willing to stand up against it.
Maybe because unlike most people on the Hill, Rand Paul actually has principles and isn't totally full of shite.
It was the same with his dad. The geniuses on this board were fed up with the establishment, but the one candidate that stood up, was crucified for not following along with it.
This board never disappoints.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:48 am to TX Tiger
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and then criticize the one politician willing to stand up against it.
No, we're lauding those that stand for what they believe as a way to further their agenda for a better America. You know , the other 97% of Republicans in the Senate.
You seem to convey that Paul deserves no animosity for his lone wolf stances. To me, that's when he deserves it the most, when he doesn't put party politics ahead of personal politics. He is part of the Republican party. He should keep that in mind.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:49 am to TX Tiger
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But isn't it interesting to watch the geniuses on this board constantly bitch and moan about the establishment, and then criticize the one politician willing to stand up against it.
I'm one of those "geniuses" who would like things to go in the right direction, and change can be affected.
Rand Paul isn't helping things move in the right direction by standing his ground and demanding we go all the way in one full swoop.
By holding his ground, and not compromising, he is hurting more than he is helping. Just saying no all the time is what Republicans have thrived on, and that is part of the reason we are stuck right now with Obamacare.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:50 am to Jake88
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I'm fine with nothing getting passed. As I've said before, "compromise" and "bipartisan" usually mean I'm about to get fricked.
how often does any bill's passage make your life better? gridlock is a beautiful thing.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:50 am to PrimeTime Money
We are addicted to spending. Rand knows it will never change until we have a revolutionary shift in monetary policy or a catastrophic economic collapse. I applaud him for being the one guy to stand up for spending sanity while every other Senator spends us into oblivion and kicks the can down the road.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:50 am to Homesick Tiger
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He is part of the Republican party. He should keep that in mind.
I'd say the same for all the other Republicans. Maybe they should remember what party they belong to
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:50 am to PrimeTime Money
But he endorses Roy Moore dammit
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:51 am to doubleb
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By holding his ground, and not compromising, he is hurting more than he is helping
name one damn thing the left has compromised on in the last 12 years.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:51 am to parrothead
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But he endorses Roy Moore dammit
Rand endorse Moore? link?
I find that hard to believe
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:51 am to PrimeTime Money
He's so frustrating, but I know he's a top 3 Senator despite it.
I can't really formulate how I feel about him.
I can't really formulate how I feel about him.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:53 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:You have defined the problem; party politics. Party politics is just another way of saying, establishment-controlled uniparty.
You seem to convey that Paul deserves no animosity for his lone wolf stances. To me, that's when he deserves it the most, when he doesn't put party politics ahead of personal politics. He is part of the Republican party. He should keep that in mind.
If you're fine with that, then yeah, Rand Paul, and anyone else who doesn't go along with it, should just STFU.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:55 am to SirWinston
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I can't really formulate how I feel about him.
I think he keeps his party in check about certain things and that's a plus for him but eventually you have to swallow a little personal pride for party progress, since we're talking politics here.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:57 am to ProjectP2294
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He should be doing what is in the best interest of his constituents and not compromising his beliefs to cater to some arbitrary label.
As long as he recognizes that the status quo is an outcome of his votes as well, I agree.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:58 am to Salmon
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:58 am to doubleb
quote:He isn't helping the establishment further its agenda, correct.
Rand Paul isn't helping things move in the right direction by standing his ground and demanding we go all the way in one full swoop.
quote:How?
By holding his ground, and not compromising, he is hurting more than he is helping.
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Just saying no all the time is what Republicans have thrived on, and that is part of the reason we are stuck right now with Obamacare.
Yeah, that's the reason.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 8:59 am to parrothead
Yeesh. Not a good look Rand.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:00 am to PrimeTime Money
He is a classic Senator. The Senate is supposed to be the house of no. The House of Reps is where the fighting is supposed to happen, and the Senate is a check of the House. Unfortunately, the classic Senate is no more.
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