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re: Lerner's Blackberry "Wiped clean" after launch of congressional investigation
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:12 pm to BobBoucher
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:12 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
I'm guessing That it doesn't fit the far right narrative that he's not involved.
I do not believe there will be evidence found that links President Obama directly. I believe he is carefully insulated from this.
Valerie Jarrett? Not so much.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:16 pm to BobBoucher
Listen, the IRS broke the law by destroying evidence in an ongoing investigation. Then they failed to inform the investigators that they lost the evidence for over 3 months. This isn't just "oh silly us" it's a pattern of lies.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:19 pm to ruzil
shite forgot GM is alive and Al Qaeda is on the run, that's 3 things this idiot has claimed.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:23 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
I do not believe there will be evidence found that links President Obama directly. I believe he is carefully insulated from this.
Valerie Jarrett? Not so much.
I don't think anybody really believes the president was directly involved. He could have been but it's a dumb narrative. The more plausible is that his administration was pushing the IRS to get aggressive with non profits. You have to understand this was after the 2010 midterm where they got smashed by these conservatives. This was a huge threat going into 2012.
Now, I think everyone wants this judge to get the 3rd party providers records and locate all the correspondence from that phone.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 pm to LSUGrrrl
Well we are on the same page then. My overall point is Valerie Jarrett is not the puppet master as everyone seems to suggest.
And Obama is much more involved, especially in the political operations and/or in political paybacks then many people think.
If this didn't go into the White House, Lois Lerner would have been pushed under the bus months ago.
This president, if he was a. Republican, would have been hounded by the press and probably would have had to resign by now.
These liberals mindset remember is, Our ideas are worthy and no matter by what means, we must achieve our goals for the good of mankind. THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS.
And Obama is much more involved, especially in the political operations and/or in political paybacks then many people think.
If this didn't go into the White House, Lois Lerner would have been pushed under the bus months ago.
This president, if he was a. Republican, would have been hounded by the press and probably would have had to resign by now.
These liberals mindset remember is, Our ideas are worthy and no matter by what means, we must achieve our goals for the good of mankind. THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:32 pm to McChowder
quote:The sad thing is that most of the right wingers who will repeat this nonsense ad nausea know that it is a BS story.
Lerner's Blackberry "Wiped clean" after launch of congressional investigation
Most corporate cell phones won't keep 3-4 years worth of e-mails and it is standard practice to destroy / wipe the drives when the phones are recycled. Current best practice is to keep a minimum amount of e-mails (1-2 weeks) on a cell phone.
All of her e-mails will likely be recovered and the only thing we will discover is that she was a complete waste of payroll... which won't come as a shock to anyone. But don't let me stop the circle jerk.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:37 pm to mmcgrath
So you saying that her emails would be stored other places than her hard drive and the 90 day server 
What a load of crap
What a load of crap
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:58 pm to Lsut81
quote:
Lsut81
You don't find this to be part of an uncanny series of related incidents?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:02 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
All of her e-mails will likely be recovered and the only thing we will discover is that she was a complete waste of payroll... which won't come as a shock to anyone. But don't let me stop the circle jerk.
Quoted for future embarrassment...
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:03 pm to wickowick
Is there anyone decent in this Administration, anyone?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:04 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
All of her e-mails will likely be recovered and the only thing we will discover is that she was a complete waste of payroll... which won't come as a shock to anyone. But don't let me stop the circle jerk.
You are scum...
That's all
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:04 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:
Is there anyone decent in this Administration, anyone?
If there are, they are scared to say anything...
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:08 pm to StrangeBrew
quote:I think it is very likely. But complaining that a retired cell phone is destruction of public documents is silly.
So you saying that her emails would be stored other places than her hard drive and the 90 day server
What a load of crap
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:15 pm to mmcgrath
In my experience with corporate investigations, once you are informed of an investigation, NOTHING is deleted, destroyed, recycled, etc. Nothing. Ever. If for no reason other than to add credibility to allegations and to ensure LACK of producable docs doesn't prevent the company from proving innocence.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:17 pm to mmcgrath
quote:What do you specifically know about Lerner's?
Most corporate cell phones won't keep 3-4 years worth of e-mails
quote:NOT DURING AN INVESTIGATION.
it is standard practice to destroy / wipe the drives when the phones are recycled
quote:Current best practice is to comply with the law.
Current best practice is to keep a minimum amount of e-mails (1-2 weeks) on a cell phone.
quote:Over what period of time?
All of her e-mails will likely be recovered
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:26 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Most corporate cell phones won't keep 3-4 years worth of e-mails and it is standard practice to destroy / wipe the drives when the phones are recycled. Current best practice is to keep a minimum amount of e-mails (1-2 weeks) on a cell phone.
LoL just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:10 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Is that Michael Jones?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:16 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Which wouldn't cover her cell phone for e-mails
Current best practice is to comply with the law.
quote:All of the time. Cell phones aren't a method of record keeping.
NOT DURING AN INVESTIGATION.
quote:Nothing about her's in particular, but it would be very unusual to have one with 4 years of e-mails. What is your experience?
What do you specifically know about Lerner's?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:19 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:An investigation wouldn't require the preservation of old cell phones. The e-mails would be required to be retained as of the receipt of the court order / actionable notice. Private corporations use corporate retention policies to destroy as much history as possible moreso than to retain everything.
In my experience with corporate investigations, once you are informed of an investigation, NOTHING is deleted, destroyed, recycled, etc. Nothing. Ever. If for no reason other than to add credibility to allegations and to ensure LACK of producable docs doesn't prevent the company from proving innocence.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:27 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
But complaining that a retired cell phone is destruction of public documents is silly.
if this was regular litigation, it would lead to severe sanctions in discovery. remember: the destruction was AFTER notice of the investigation
at that point, retention is not based in "standard practices"
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