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Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:13 pm to McChowder
Wow.
I've always seriously doubted this went all the way to Obama. However, they really are going a LONG way to protect an IRS employee. This has to go to someone in the WH (ahem, Valerie).
I've always seriously doubted this went all the way to Obama. However, they really are going a LONG way to protect an IRS employee. This has to go to someone in the WH (ahem, Valerie).
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:23 pm to idlewatcher
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The proverbial sh*t would hit the fan if this happens Unless of course they are complicit
The BES has the functionality of consistently backing up your entire phone so that if there is a failure, they can restore an image of it to a new one as if nothing happened. I would like to know exactly how they implemented BES. We already know that everything that was sent and received from the mail server was first copied and retained in BES.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:30 pm to LSUGrrrl
Well, the actual targeting may have not involved Obama or the cabinet, however possibly the coverup?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:32 pm to ironsides
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Well, the actual targeting may have not involved Obama or the cabinet, however possibly the coverup?
Remains to be seen if the old adage "It's not the crime, it's the coverup" is still true.
It was true in the 70s because the media hated Nixon with the passion of 1000 suns.
They'll insist that Obama had nothing to do with this even if there is footage of Obama holding up two forms of ID and a DNA test while personally ordering various government agencies to target organizations like True The Vote.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:33 pm to McChowder
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The BES has the functionality of consistently backing up your entire phone so that if there is a failure, they can restore an image of it to a new one as if nothing happened. I would like to know exactly how they implemented BES. We already know that everything that was sent and received from the mail server was first copied and retained in BES.
Yup yup. We shut ours down not long ago (did away with providing folks BB's because they treated them like a Section 8 home). That her phone was wiped with an investigation already in progress is fricking HUGE!!
This shows a purposeful attempt to destroy data. There more than likely has to be some sort of worklog ticket with info on who authorized this and why. The fan is about to be hit, big-time.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:39 pm to BobBoucher
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Its a bit if a stretch to think Obama himself was in on this. I posted in another thread that its likely do to a simple abuse of power as a result of a highly polarized political atmosphere, then people just trying to cover their asses.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:41 pm to McChowder
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"The IRS filing in federal Judge Emmet Sullivan’s court reveals shocking new information. The IRS destroyed Lerner’s Blackberry AFTER it knew her computer had crashed and after a Congressional inquiry was well underway. As an IRS official declared under the penalty of perjury, the destroyed Blackberry would have contained the same emails (both sent and received) as Lois Lerner’s hard drive."
"With incredible disregard for the law and the Congressional inquiry, the IRS admits that this Blackberry “was removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012.”
"The IRS did not even attempt to retrieve that data. It cavalierly recites: “There is no record of any attempt by any IRS IT employee to recover data from any Blackberry device assigned to Lois Lerner in response to the Congressional investigations or this investigation,” according to Stephen Manning, Deputy Chief Information Officer for Strategy & Modernization."
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:43 pm to McChowder
Why hasn't she arrested by now for destroying evidence?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:45 pm to dante
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If she did nothing wrong and broke no laws why was it necessary to destroy her Blackberry?
Or plead the FIF?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:46 pm to Revelator
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Why hasn't she arrested by now for destroying evidence?
I'm waiting to see the paper-trail on this.
Why did she get a new BB? Did the old one die? Who authorized her to get the new one or did she have final approval on the purchase? Where's the IT worklog ticket on this?
These are all things that can be found fairly easily and should end up coming out soon-ish.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:49 pm to McChowder
i had my iphone "wiped clean" like 10 times for various reasons when I was at my last job. Didn't lose a single e-mail, because it all resided on an exchange server.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:49 pm to Bard
Rex is online, but he's as silent as a cat fart.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:50 pm to ironsides
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Well, the actual targeting may have not involved Obama or the cabinet, however possibly the coverup?
If anyone knew anything about this and mentioned it to him, they should be fired. It would be pure stupidity to take away deniability. I say it's Jarrett and he didn't know/care until it was unavoidable.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:52 pm to McChowder
"The IRS has already turned over all of the relevant emails. Republicans need to stop this witch hunt!" - Rex, et al
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:53 pm to Revelator
She will argue through lawyers that she went through the proper channels which I believe maybe true. But this could lead to a conspiracy probe regarding a cover up.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:53 pm to LSUGrrrl
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I say it's Jarrett and he didn't know/care until it was unavoidable.
Could very well be right, he might play golf all the time because there is nothing else to do and he really is out of the day to day decisions in the White House...
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:54 pm to LSUGrrrl
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I say it's Jarrett and he didn't know/care until it was unavoidable.
I figure he told his underlings to get him re-elected by any means necessary.
Obama doesn't strike me as a detail-oriented guy on anything but basketball. Instead, he'll act like the fricking King of Siam and declare that because he wants it done, etc., etc., etc., it WILL be done.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:55 pm to McChowder
LERNER BEING WITCHHUNT!!!
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:55 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:What is funny is that is exactly what happened.....the IRS turned over all the emails THEY wanted to turn over.
The IRS has already turned over all of the relevant emails
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