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Just keep the damn thing and let it collapse

Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:28 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10281 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:28 am
Healthcare reform was a lose- lose proposition for the Republicans. Nothing short of single payor would have even remotely had bi-partisan support. Let it collapse and the Dems still OWN IT.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:30 am to
Amen

Thankfully we have a President that won't let the Dims drive the narrative when it collapses.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:31 am to
Let our healthcare system collapse? Bold strategy for the party that controls all of government
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:33 am to
You think big Pharma and big Insurance will let that happen? They're the ones pulling the strings here.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79203 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:39 am to
As much as I would like for that to happen, the GOP would never live that down.

"You had the house, senate and POTUS and now you're leaving all those millenial basement dwellers out in the cold you heartless fricks! ACA was a work in progress and the GOP stopped all work".
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:40 am to
You need to lay off the Fox News.

No way anyone outside of the Trump base will put this on the Dems when the Repubs have both houses, the presidency and fail to do anything to help alleviate the problem.

They didn't even need a single Dem vote to pass this bill, but failed to do it after years of campaign promises to do so.

No way independents give Trump and the Repubs a pass
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25136 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

ealthcare reform was a lose- lose proposition for the Republicans.


That's bullshite. If they repeal it, that action will be enormously popular among their constituents. The only lose/lose proposition is to do nothing when a straight repeal will do.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:43 am to
No, full repeal now!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56352 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

They didn't even need a single Dem vote to pass this bill, but failed to do it after years of campaign promises to do so.

No way independents give Trump and the Repubs a pass

I will not.

The GOP is laughably inept. Grow a set, and do something, before we all go broke.

Newsflash, the people that will hate you for the repeal hate you already.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18797 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:45 am to
Can't just let it go. Campaign promises. Many of their constituencies are going to hold them accountable for replacing Obamacare.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25136 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:49 am to
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Newsflash, the people that will hate you for the repeal hate you already.


Second newsflash, the guys that now "have insurance" through their employer can't actually use it because a $7,500 deductible and 80/20 to $11,000 is the same as no insurance to them.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67977 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:50 am to
The 2-year sunset plan isn't a bad approach.

Obamacare won't be pulled cold turkey, so that avoids catostophic effects.

At the same time its end date is put on the clock, and when you put something on a calendar, you tend to get action.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56352 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:51 am to
quote:

the guys that now have insurance through their employer can't actually use it because a $7,500 deductible and 80/20 to $11,000 is the same as no insurance to them.

Just to be clear, I agree with you 100%, I am one of those people with a 9k deductible for my family. All for almost twice what I used to pay in premiums
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:52 am to
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Healthcare reform was a lose- lose proposition for the Republicans. Nothing short of single payor would have even remotely had bi-partisan support. Let it collapse and the Dems still OWN IT.


Letting healthcare collapse while you have the power to change it is not something for which constituents will reward you

#1 campaign promise was repeal/replace dude
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:53 am to
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Let our healthcare system collapse?



actually i get my insurance through my employer as do 166mm of my fellow americans. perhaps you should get off massa guberments plantation and try getting a job with benefits.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56352 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:53 am to
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At the same time its end date is put on the clock, and when you put something on a calendar, you tend to get action.

Not with this set of numbnuts. They knew the time they had complete control of the US govt, but nothing. They are terrified, for all their barking and bullshite they lack any type of leadership. Nothing will ever be done that makes a damn bit of difference. Ever.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:54 am to
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Let our healthcare system collapse?


Obamacare is not healthcare. It is government subsidized health insurance.
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:55 am to
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drive the narrative when it collapses.


When a party controls all three branches of government and something collapses, the narrative is simple: YOU own the collapse.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23730 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:57 am to
Or perhaps keep the damn thing and make necessary adjustments to the law to help and provide value to the American people. How about that?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 9:58 am to
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Healthcare reform was a lose- lose proposition for the Republicans. Nothing short of single payor would have even remotely had bi-partisan support. Let it collapse and the Dems still OWN IT.



I love Trumpkins and the righties on here...you just post crap you pull right out of your asses without using the brain located there to consider things before you post.
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