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re: Jay Carney denies memo was even about Benghazi

Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:06 pm to
Why dd you copy & paste the same bs? I want you to copy and paste proof that he isn't dancing around the truth here.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:09 pm to
Some things bear repeating
Posted by roygu
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:11 pm to
Carney will probably be retired soon so Rex of Eurocat may be in line for a new job.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:12 pm to
Morrel testified about intel on the protests(even though proven false), but never about a video. Even when they grilled him in front of congress, he said when he heard Susan Rice say that on the Sunday shows, he had no clue about it. This had to come from the White House, cause it didn't come from the CIA....So where did the video stuff get "made up"?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:14 pm to
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Rex of Eurocat
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:14 pm to
Wow. Unfrickingbelievable
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:19 pm to
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If Rex had a son...


Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:20 pm to
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So where did the video stuff get "made up"?


It's not really made up if the group suspected of being involved says publicly that it was a "spontaneous popular uprising in response to what happened by the West" as I linked earlier in this thread.

This is why I have to repeat myself. No one here seems to actually read my posts.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:20 pm to
Glad somebody got that.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:30 pm to
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That makes zero sense...


Wrong.

It makes Decatur sense. That is all that matters.



(that is a bizarre world to live in too - scary)
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:32 pm to
But the White House claimed that it came from the CIA report, and now we know it didn't...See the delima they have. The spontaneous protest is covered by the CIA report(from analyst that are in Washington-proven false), but they have no clue where Rice got the video info...
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:34 pm to
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It's not really made up if the group suspected of being involved says publicly that it was a "spontaneous popular uprising in response to what happened by the West" as I linked earlier in this thread.


Supposedly not true, as we are finding out. The Cairo protest was over the Blind Sheik, stoked by Al Queda. According to the analyst the video was the White House excuse they put out, and their AP reporters ran with it...
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:36 pm to
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Jay Carney denies memo was even about Benghazi
How stupid do they think we are?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:39 pm to
53% find thus funny
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:39 pm to
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How stupid do they think we are?


"These are not the droids you're looking for" kind of stupid, as long as they own the media.
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Cairo and Benghazi had nothing to do with a Video, duh. Just interviewed the Lawyer from the Blind sheik case, and he said Cairo protests were about the Blind Sheik, and they were going for 3 days, prior to 911. It had zero to do with the video.


Your overall point about what went on in Cairo that day is one I have specifically made on this forum several times over a period of about a year now. I strongly disagree with only one thing - that the Cairo protests had "zero" to do with the video. My previous post in this thread made reference to "Part 1" and "Part 2" of the Cairo demonstrations on Sept. 11th.

Part 1 was the long-planned Blind Sheik- related demonstration that was attended by his brother and a number of Al-Qaeda backers and members of the Muslim Brotherhood. It was for the most part peaceful. Part 2 was piggybacked onto that demonstration as a partial result of the many tweets from the American Embassy in Cairo which helped to spread word about the video, thus providing political cover for the Part 1 demonstration planned as a 9/11 anniversary anti-American affair. The Part 2 group consisted of many of the so-called "soccer hooligans" who can be seen in many photos not looking angry but celebrating their fellow demonstrators' breach of the Embassy's walls.

Short form, had there been no video at all, there would still would have been a long-planned major anti-American Sept. 11th demonstration at the U.S. Embassy - an event which would have looked bad in terms of the success of the Arab Spring, especially in view of the administration's (and the Ambassador's) support for Mursi. Hillary had just been in Cairo 7 weeks earlier in a show of support for the incoming Muslim Brotherhood government.

The video played right into the hands of the Administration even BEFORE the attack in Benghazi a few hours later. And from that very night onward, they extended its role automatically to Benghazi as a matter of strategic deflection of the truth.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:45 pm to
Spot on NH spot on.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 9:48 pm to
Like I said, the video excuse was our Own White Houses excuse to cover the Al Queda protest in Cairo....We fed it. Now imagine if the video excuse did cause a protest that killed our guys............Think about that!!! We would have then instigated the death of our own guys, if that narrative was true....
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:15 pm to
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Your overall point about what went on in Cairo that day is one I have specifically made on this forum several times over a period of about a year now.


Just to support my statement for any doubters, here is my post in a Benghazi thread. The post was made on July 27, 2013, (about 277 days ago) at 9;:46 PM:


"The entire "talking points controversy' grew out of a separate situation initiated by the State Dept. and the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. The Benghazi events were an unforeseen "complication" that caught Clinton and the administration with their pants down, and they elected to go ahead with the same Sunday shows blitz they had already planned even before Benghazi. The plan was to discredit the pre-planned al-queda sourced demonstrations already planned for Sept. 11th against the Cairo Embassy as being caused by the video, which was conveniently sent to an Egyptian television station on Sept. 8th by unknown sources. State knew it would look bad to have a big anti-US demonstration in Egypt on Sept. 11th after the US backed the Egyptian overthrow of Mubarek. So they played a role in putting the now-famous video out there in order to create a protest against the embassy which would be integrated into the al-qaeda sourced demonstration that same day, masking the viability of the terrorist network in Egypt and blaming it all on a video from which the govt, could easily disassociate itself.

That was a Tuesday, and the plan was already in place to have someone (not necessarily Susan Rice at that point in time) make the Sunday talk circuit and dismiss any Sept. 11th anti-American demonstrations in that part of the world as being caused by the anti-Islamic video, Then, when the shite hit the fan in Benghazi, even though they were told immediately it was an act of terrorism unrelated to the video, the powers-that-be made a decision at the White House on Saturday morning to stay with the video cover story while they bought time to see how the Benghazi events would play out. Had there been no Benghazi events, you still would have seen the same Sunday talk show appearances blaming the video, only in that case it would have been to dismiss the idea that the US is disliked in Egypt. They merely expanded the theme to include Benghazi, because they hoped it would take the focus off the cause of the deaths in Benghazi."

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This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 10:18 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:19 pm to
If true, this white House is just plain evil, and a clear and present danger...
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