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re: Jay Carney denies memo was even about Benghazi
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:30 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:30 pm to theunknownknight
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It's like arguing with 5 year olds.
Except you can still poke a 5 year old in the eyes and tell him if he tells his mom, his dad will get drunk again and beat her up...and leave the family forever...all because he is a crybaby.
wait....i may have "over shared"
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:33 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
But we get the point...
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:34 pm to Jbird
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I think you are a fricking idiot who wants to have him make a call on a single video and yet crow that they had sigint on specific communications.
I used that as an example. I'm not even sure the CIA looked at that. It's not mentioned in the line review from what I can tell. The CIA looked at more.
Ansar al-Sharia has been singled out as having the largest number of people who participated. Here's what they had to say about the motivation:
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The group also posted on Facebook and Twitter a YouTube video on Sept. 12 praising the attack but emphasizing that it was not organized or officially led by Ansar al Sharia. The video leaves open the possibility that individual members of the group may have been involved in the attack.
"We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]," a summary of the video states. "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders."
The group also released an official statement on Sept. 12 along the same lines, stating that the attack was not an official operation, as noted by Bill Roggio of the Long War Journal.
"Ansar al-Shariah Brigade didn't participate in this popular uprising as a separate entity, but it was carrying out its duties in al-Jala'a hospital and other places where it was entrusted with some duties. The Brigade didn't participate as a sole entity; rather, it was a spontaneous popular uprising in response to what happened by the West," the statement said.
Also on Sept. 12, a spokesman for Ansar al-Sharia praised the attack and said, according to the New York Times, "We are saluting our people for this zeal in protecting their religion, to grant victory to the prophet. The response has to be firm."
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Here is the source video. The caption under the video as run through Google Translate:
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Battalion established Sharia supporters dawn on Wednesday, September 12 Martyrs Hospital "evacuate formerly" a press conference. Where the start of the conference with a prayer to the Holy Prophet, peace be upon him and then paid tribute to the Muslim people pause Libyan in Benghazi against the attack on the Holy Prophet, peace be upon him. Must respond to this attack in the strongest and packages, and stressed that what has happened is the efficiency of the spectra of the people and they anger God and His Messenger of Muslim youth and battalion supporters of Sharia as a military did not participate formally and not my direct orders from the battalion and Haya engaged functions are normal in the protection of some institutions, and confirmed that there were casualties, one of the embassy guard and all Libyans
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This is specifically referred to in the line review.
The SIGINT I'm sure includes this:
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The intelligence that helped inform those talking points—and what the U.S. public would ultimately be told—came in part from an intercept of a phone call between one of the alleged attackers and a middle manager from al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), the group’s north African affiliate, according to U.S. officials familiar with the intercept. In the call, the alleged attacker said the locals went forward with the attack only after watching the riots that same day at the U.S. embassy in Cairo.
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You see this also. What are you going to think?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:36 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Would you like to actually discuss this substantively?
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:37 pm to Decatur
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What are you going to think?
I think that as much as you want it to, this stuff isn't going away.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:38 pm to Decatur
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Would you like to actually discuss this substantively?
n..n...n...no *sniffle - sniffle*
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:38 pm to Godfather1
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I think that as much as you want it to, this stuff isn't going away.
Of course not. Republicans will continue to use the deaths of four American heroes for political attacks.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:39 pm to Decatur
I think that this idiotic administration was caught with their collective golf jorts around their ankles on the anniversary of 9-11. I think your pure as the driven snow intel community sucked shite and the admin tried to bury this 7 weeks prior to the election. I also think you are the perfect apologist for this shite.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:40 pm to Decatur
quote:Your administration did that arse.
Republicans will continue to use the deaths of four American heroes for political attacks.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:40 pm to Decatur
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Of course not. Republicans will continue to use the deaths of four American heroes for political attacks.
Spin it however you want.
It's a thorn your precious administration can't seem to get out of it's side.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:42 pm to Godfather1
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It's a thorn your precious administration can't seem to get out of it's side.
Baseless political attacks. At least own up to it.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:44 pm to Decatur
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Baseless political attacks. At least own up to it.
Unlike you, I'm interested in knowing the truth.
If it's all so baseless, it would've gone away by now. Even ABC was on Carney's arse today.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:45 pm to Decatur
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Decatur
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Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15
The email from Obama's aide went out the day before.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:45 pm to Decatur
quote:This from a guy who hated the Patriot Act until Odrama took over.
Baseless political attacks. At least own up to it.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:49 pm to Alahunter
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The email from Obama's aide went out the day before.
Well, based upon IGNINT, there was a 77.3324% chance that videos on the innerweb might have possibly, in some way, kinda, perhaps had a 17% effect. Therefore, IGNINT still stands by its IGNINT conclusions. I choose to be on the IGNINT side.
-Decatur-
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:51 pm to Godfather1
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Unlike you, I'm interested in knowing the truth.
Well I don't see too many others here bringing facts to this discussion. I'm more than willing to have an informational discussion if you'd like.
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If it's all so baseless, it would've gone away by now. Even ABC was on Carney's arse today.
Not when Republicans have so many plans for this "Benghazi scandal". It's pretty much become an industry for them by now.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:52 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Well, based upon IGNINT, there was a 77.3324% chance that videos on the innerweb might have possibly, in some way, kinda, perhaps had a 17% effect. Therefore, IGNINT still stands by its IGNINT conclusions. I choose to be on the IGNINT side.
-Decatur-
Not long enough, BHP.
If you're gonna do Decatur properly, the post should be long enough to carry over to at least the next post, if not more.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:53 pm to Decatur
quote:Was it the Rs that had to be sued to bring forth an email that you say had nothing to do directly with Libya? If it had nothing to do with it why did these assholes have to be sued? Just admit you are carrying the water for an inept admin and failed intel.
Not when Republicans have so many plans for this "Benghazi scandal". It's pretty much become an industry for them by now.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 6:55 pm to Decatur
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Not when Republicans have so many plans for this "Benghazi scandal". It's pretty much become an industry for them by now.
Ah. More of Hilary's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy".
Remember how that one turned out? Turns out her husband actually WAS getting blown.
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