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re: In 24 states, over half the babies born on Medicaid
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:53 pm to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:53 pm to Tiger Tracker
Those republican states have huge democrat populations sucking up the Medicaid. Those same states have decades of democrat history leading up to the last 15 years.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:55 pm to Jake88
Naw that's just what this boards like to believe--the whole Welfare queen thing is a dog at black ppl. Masked racism.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:55 pm to The_Duke
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So you guys not only want poor ppl to not produce you also want more ppl to ascribe to your Christian lifestyle and how you believe ppl should live
Religion has nothing to do with it. Children that are raised in a two parent household are healthier, have better grades, and are more likely to graduate from High School and College than their peers that come from single-parent households; regardless of the family's penchant for religion.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:57 pm to The_Duke
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So you guys not only want poor ppl to not produce you also want more ppl to ascribe to your Christian lifestyle and how you believe ppl should live
It's fine to let anyone live as immorally as they want to, but don't ask me to pay for it later.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:57 pm to Golfer
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Religion has nothing to do with it. Children that are raised in a two parent household are healthier, have better grades, and are more likely to graduate from High School and College than their peers that come from single-parent households
All true---but that doesn't mean that they have to be married.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:58 pm to Tiger Tracker
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You know how many of those states in top 5 are in the south? These are Republican run states that have very conservative policies in general.
What has that got to do with anything? They are getting their money from the Federal Government through federal programs.
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How about you improve education, access to contraception, and the economy in those states first.
Really? Did you know a teacher can take your daughter for an abortion without parental consent, but that same teacher can't give your child an aspirin without consent? Some public schools give condoms to their students and they can certainly get them for free from Planned Parenthood. Sex Education is taught in pretty much every public school today.
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You guys make it out to be this big left vs right issue, but in reality if the majority of these states weren't going bankrupt from poor local and state governance there wouldn't be so many people having children on medicaid.
What has the state governments going broke have to do with people having babies on medicaid? Do you think the poor people are waking up, seeing the state of the state coffers and saying, "Hey! Looks like a good day to have a baby!"?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:58 pm to The_Duke
quote:and you want to force me at the end of a gun to pay for their irresponsible life choices
So you guys not only want poor ppl to not produce you also want more ppl to ascribe to your Christian lifestyle and how you believe ppl should live
the #1 predictor of lack of wealth isn't race, location, or gender
it's being a single parent
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 2:59 pm to Revelator
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It's fine to let anyone live as immorally as they want to, but don't ask me to pay for it later.
And there we have it folks
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:00 pm to Revelator
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In 24 states, over half of those who procreate are irresponsible.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:00 pm to Revelator
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I call exploiting; trying to increase welfare roles, encourainging out of wedlock births, encouraging illegal immigration and promising them benefits
Im not going to touch all of this because it's doused in a lot of religion and personal opinions supported by a slanted viewpoint.
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encouraging and seeking things like free healthcare and college tuition, etc.
These two items always baffle me though. Why wouldn't we want to further educate the american people at an institute of higher learning be it a university or trade school? I for one am all for my tax dollars paying for better education as many economists show that higher educated countries tend to have better economies.
Same with healthcare. I guess that one's more debatable, but i am surprised people hate this idea so much. If healthcare was a human service instead of a profitable industry we could cut costs on drugs and prescriptions tremendously. I don't feel like affordable health care is that radical of an idea, but that's just me though.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:01 pm to HempHead
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Eliminating subsidization is not 'forcing', but yes, you can force them.
This could be accomplished with a one time tax free $5000 cash payout to any individual aged 18-60 who agrees to be sterilized. Tubes tied or vasectomy.
Problem will solve itself. Especially target the men, because a significant portion of them are not ever going to be in the childs life anyway.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:01 pm to The_Duke
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All true---but that doesn't mean that they have to be married.
Correct. However, the number of non-married couples that have children together and live under one roof, and remain that way through the child's life is rather slim.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:03 pm to Revelator
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encourainging out of wedlock births
I know unmarried couples who might as well be married. They've been together longer than many married couples, a decade or more. Successful professional couples who've never been on welfare, just happen to not believe in marriage in the traditional sense because of the religious undertones, who just happen to have children. They own property together, have the powers of attorney for their partners, etc. Not all unmarried couples with children are the same.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:03 pm to The_Duke
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And there we have it folks
Have what? If I would have said I want people to adhere to my Christian teachings, you would have said I was forcing my religion on you. But since I said let people live like they want but don't Ask me to pay for their bad decisions, you still have a problem.
Bottom line, you don't want to do anything but blame my side.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:03 pm to Revelator
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I'd characterize that as rampant!
It certainly looks rampant to me.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:04 pm to The_Duke
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There isn't a infinite amount of wealth to go around.
And you are free to give away as much of your wealth as you choose. You are not, however, free to take mine from me.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:04 pm to joeyb147
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the #1 predictor of lack of wealth isn't race, location, or gender it's being a single parent
Guess white males owing owing the majority of wealth, resources, high level job and income have nothing to do with the suppression of women and minority's since the inception of America.
All of their success is attributed to coming from a loving home of married parents.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:06 pm to Tiger Tracker
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I for one am all for my tax dollars paying for better education as many economists show that higher educated countries tend to have better economies.
People with access to books only in times past gained a greater education and grasp of the English language than some doctrinal students these days. Throwing more money at a problem isn't always the solution.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:07 pm to dmjones
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I know unmarried couples who might as well be married, have been together longer than many married couples, successful professional couples who've never been on welfare, who have children. Not all unmarried couples with children are the same. Not everyone believes in the traditional form of marriage because of the religious undertones of it.
This doesn't define the norm.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:08 pm to The_Duke
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It's fine to let anyone live as immorally as they want to, but don't ask me to pay for it later.
And there we have it folks
Ok. What? There we have what? That we don't want to pay for their lifestyle choices? If you want to pay for it....fine. Go ahead. We don't, so why should we?
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