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re: In 24 states, over half the babies born on Medicaid
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:09 pm to Revelator
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:09 pm to Revelator
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So that's it now? We allow people to live without any consequences of bad decision making and simply throw our hands in the air and continue until doomsday?!
What's your better option?
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:09 pm to Revelator
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This doesn't define the norm.
It doesn't but, as I said, not all unmarried couples with children are the same. Hell, one of my best friends and his significant other have been together for a decade, have two very intelligent and well adjusted children, own property together, share bank accounts, etc. If domestic partnerships were offered out here in the suburbs where they live, they'd jump on that in a heartbeat.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:11 pm to dmjones
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doesn't but, as I said, not all unmarried couples with children are the same.
A father better damn well make sure his offspring aren't a drain on society, married or not.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:12 pm to DawgsLife
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What has that got to do with anything?
The fact that some people are trying to pretend like this is all the fault of the left somehow.
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They are getting their money from the Federal Government through federal programs
Except louisiana ended up third on the list and Jindal refused medicaid expansion over and over again. You still think state policy plays no role in this just because the fed gov sends the money to the states?
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Really? Did you know a teacher can take your daughter for an abortion without parental consent, but that same teacher can't give your child an aspirin without consent? Some public schools give condoms to their students and they can certainly get them for free from Planned Parenthood. Sex Education is taught in pretty much every public school today.
You make it sound like schools are just giving out abortions on a typical tuesday. How many instances did this actually happen? Is there a state law that says schools/teachers are legally allowed to do this, or was it a out of the norm scenario done by some idiot teacher?
You mean the planned parenthood that people get shamed for going to, and in many of the states i talked about they are trying to push for defunding it or making it not as widely known as they should in public schools?
Sex education is fine. I meant better education in general. Many of these states rank the worst in education as well. Educated people tend to rely less on the govt as they have more opportunities to succeed.
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What has the state governments going broke have to do with people having babies on medicaid? Do you think the poor people are waking up, seeing the state of the state coffers and saying, "Hey! Looks like a good day to have a baby!"?
No i am saying when your state is broke, even if you wanted to, you couldn't allocate a ton of money to the things i mentioned above which could help reduce the number of people on govt assisted births.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:13 pm to Tiger Tracker
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I call exploiting; trying to increase welfare roles, encourainging out of wedlock births, encouraging illegal immigration and promising them benefits
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Im not going to touch all of this because it's doused in a lot of religion and personal opinions supported by a slanted viewpoint.
Doused in religion? Where?
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These two items always baffle me though. Why wouldn't we want to further educate the american people at an institute of higher learning be it a university or trade school? I for one am all for my tax dollars paying for better education as many economists show that higher educated countries tend to have better economies.
Have you paid for your childs' education? I am betting you have not.
I have. I saved for years to put my two kids through college. Why should others get it for free?
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If healthcare was a human service instead of a profitable industry we could cut costs on drugs and prescriptions tremendously.
That's true. however, people invest time and money to make a profit. If any industry were a human service it would be cheaper. nobody would make a profit. And the standard of living we all enjoy would go down precipitously.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:14 pm to DawgsLife
So you're ok with helping pay for poor parnets child births if they are coming from a married couple---but not for poor parents who aren't married? That's what I'm getting from this.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Tracker
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The fact that some people are trying to pretend like this is all the fault of the left somehow
It is. The goal of the left is to put as many on the taxpayers back as possible and make them feel entitled.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:14 pm to The_Duke
quote:asians have a higher average salary than white males in the us... i need you to let me know if they're considered minorities or not
Guess white males owing owing the majority of wealth, resources, high level job and income have nothing to do with the suppression of women and minority's since the inception of America.
All of their success is attributed to coming from a loving home of married parents.
i guess the concentration camps they were put in during WW2 weren't really that bad
i guess it's the evil white mans fault that after the civil rights movement, single parents in the black community went from around 10% to now over 70%
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:15 pm to The_Duke
Black two parent families have poverty rates of only 6.9%
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:15 pm to The_Duke
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have nothing to do with the suppression of women and minority's
first off *minorities
Second off, I am not suppressed. I have never been suppressed. I am free to pursue an education, a career, a job anything that I choose. I do not rely on the government to take care of me.
Constatnly prattling on about suppression and oppression does not make it so. Women and minorities are suppressed and oppressed in this country only insofar as they allow themselves to think that way.
Anyone in this country is provided ample opportunity to pull themselves out of poverty and ignorance. However, it is not an easy road and some just choose not to pursue that avenue.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:15 pm to AUstar
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Why do brown people have so many kids?
It's free
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:16 pm to Revelator
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People with access to books only in times past gained a greater education and grasp of the English language than some doctrinal students these days. Throwing more money at a problem isn't always the solution.
That's an interesting anecdote, but as i said providing higher education via universities or trade schools, in general, has a net benefit to the economy. Now throwing more money in to something that's broken won't fix it. I agree with you there.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:16 pm to The_Duke
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So you're ok with helping pay for poor parnets child births if they are coming from a married couple---but not for poor parents who aren't married? That's what I'm getting from this.
Fuxk a dead beat dad who relies on welfare.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:17 pm to Haughton99
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What's your better option?
Not incitivizing out of wedlock births and supporting generational welfare. Actually give tax credits to married couples and not single mothers who continue to have out of wedlock children.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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A father better damn well make sure his offspring aren't a drain on society, married or not.
As a father myself, I wholeheartedly agree. I would say the same for a mother. Unfortunately, not everyone does.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:18 pm to Revelator
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In 24 of the nation’s 50 states at least half of the babies born during the latest year on record had their births paid for by Medicaid
I think they are happy about this.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:18 pm to dmjones
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It doesn't but, as I said, not all unmarried couples with children are the same. Hell, one of my best friends and his significant other have been together for a decade, have two very intelligent and well adjusted children, own property together, share bank accounts, etc. If domestic partnerships were offered out here in the suburbs where they live, they'd jump on that in a heartbeat.
Well that couple isn't the focus of this article is it?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
On what planet is it a GOOD thing when low income families are having children?
Literally every policy maker thinks Africa and India have been fricked because of such behavior
Literally every policy maker thinks Africa and India have been fricked because of such behavior
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:21 pm to Revelator
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Well that couple isn't the focus of this article is it?
No, but your post implied that all unmarried couples are on welfare... or any unmarried mother is a single mother.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:21 pm to Tiger Tracker
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That's an interesting anecdote, but as i said providing higher education via universities or trade schools, in general, has a net benefit to the economy. Now throwing more money in to something that's broken won't fix it. I agree with you there.
I'm not for discouraging higher education. I'm against the taxpayer footing the bill.
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