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re: If Republicans Don't Go Nuclear For Gorsuch, I'm Never Voting For Them Again

Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:38 pm to
The dems will seat a shitass hack with 50 votes plus the vp if they need to regardless of what the republicans do

The republicans need to cease being duped.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:40 pm to
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I don't want the Dems to be able to do it with a terrible nominee down the road
You actually think Dems won't use Nuclear option just bc Repukes don't?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:40 pm to
What's the saying, don't brandish a weapon you wouldn't want used against you in the future, something like that.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:41 pm to
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the Republicans can replace them with David Duke if they wanted within 2 weeks and the dems can do nothing about it.

Why do you think the dems won't filibuster again? It's like some of you think the dems play by rules or laws.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:43 pm to
But if we are going to filibuster every competent candidate from here on our, then we just give up on getting anyone on the court. On the other hand, you go nuclear.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:43 pm to
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I don't see a logical, non-partisan reason why Democrats want to filibuster this. Gorsuch is a great choice and he is replacing Scalia, not Ginsburg.


Because their entire playbook is calling Republicans extremist. They want to make the Republicans change the rule so they can yell extremist. They know that their enablers in the media won't mention that Harry Reid started it. Their problem is the electorate is better informed these days.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18292 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Republicans Don't Go Nuclear For Gorsuch


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I'm Never Voting For Them Again


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:50 pm to
I'm all for going nuclear and rubbing their faces in it. That's how you keep the puppy from shitting on the rug.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:55 pm to
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The Dems are going to go nuke next time they can anyway. Let's do it now.




They've already done it, so it's not like it is uncharted territory.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:57 pm to
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I don't see a logical, non-partisan reason why Democrats want to filibuster this.


Merrick Garland + momentum from Trump's constant frick ups.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10246 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:58 pm to
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It's a slippery slope. Even though he is qualified, I don't want the Dems to be able to do it with a terrible nominee down the road


They will use it, regardless of what the GOP does here.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:00 pm to
Garland is what it is, if Democrats refuse to give someone a vote at the of Trump's tenure that is perfectly fine, but there is no winning for Garland anymore.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Merrick Garland + momentum from Trump's constant frick ups


Gorsuch > Garland in every respect. If people actually cared about the good of the country instead of partisan hackery.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:02 pm to
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Merrick Garland + momentum from Trump's constant frick ups.


And you can't stop the nuclear option. Who does that give momentum to? All cabinet choices, lower court appointees, Supreme Court, of which there will probably be 1 or 2 more. You can scream Garland all you want to, but your side started the nuclear options, now you have to live with it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:07 pm to
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And you can't stop the nuclear option.


Then it's worthless to pretend that there's a filibuster for any SCOTUS nominee. Let's get that out in the open, so voters know the true landscape in this era of Republican obstructionism.

Plus, that's what the Democratic base wants. In a lose/lose, might as well make the base happy.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Merrick Garland


Again, the right won this fight after they bet the election on it and bringing this up just makes you look like a sore loser.

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momentum from Trump's constant frick ups.


Wait, you think unrelated short term events and 2-3 day news cycles should weigh into battle strategies of a lifetime appointment of someone that will be on the court for 40 years and could have consequences for another politically worse lifetime appointment?

You're a goddamn idiot.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:11 pm to
I actually like Garland quite a bit. If the Rs lose the WH/Congress any time soon then Garland is who we should hope for.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Again, the right won this fight after they bet the election on it


Then they'll have no problem using the nuclear option. If they don't want to go nuclear, they didn't win the fight.

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Wait, you think short term events and 2-3 day news cycles should weigh into battle strategies of a lifetime appointment of someone that will be on the court for 40 years and could have consequences for another politically worse lifetime appointment?


It's not what I think, it's what the Senators are hearing from their constituents. The aura of Trump inevitability has been shattered (bigly) over the last few weeks.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48285 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:15 pm to
you are delusional if you think he won't be confirmed.

The left has lost their collective minds. And it is glorious to watch.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:17 pm to
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