re: How can people with morals survive in an immoral world?

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Moreover, millions of people are wonderfully moral (even by your standards of morality) yet reject Christianity or God altogether. How do you example all the moral people who believe they will face no judgement but are moral anyway? Are they not more genuine than those who fear punishment?

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One would think we live in utopia by yours and others description of the world we live in? When I read the papers, see the news, watch tv, follow politics, I don't see it?

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we'll that must settle it especially since you're a bible expert.

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The bible doesn't mention weed, but it doesn't mention masturbation either.

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Easy. Live your life the way you choose and leave everyone else the hell alone. Your morals are yours alone.

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Simplistic fantasy. My morals or immoral behaviors affects society as a whole and so does the actions of those around me. Fraud in insurance makes my insurance rates rise. Theft in the store makes my food prices rise. Corrupt politicians who steal billions makes my taxes go up? The price of immoral people who have to be jailed is passed on to me. I could go on and on.

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Christians, as a percentage of their population, commit crimes at a higher percentage than those who claim no specific religion or reject belief outright. The least incarcerated people in America as a percentage of their population: White women who don't claim any religion (not necessarily atheists however).

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Again, you tried to frame the conversation by stating that I couldn't use the excuse that many who claim to be Christians aren't but I reject you setting the parameter of the discussion. Jesus himself said that few would be saved and I'll take his word over yours.

are you setting up some conservative vs democrat thing?

because there are very few people in politics who live up to your first standard. I would say most of the people who follow the Christian life don't usually become politicians.

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are you setting up some conservative vs democrat thing?

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No because there are some conservative Democrats and many liberal Republicans.

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That's fine, but you still have to explain all the people who openly reject religion behaving better than those who do as a whole.

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I don't have to explain it, because I don't believe this to be true.

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Because by definition they don't believe in an afterlife, yet obey the law at a far greater rate than those who claim religion do.

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you must not understand the idea of people being culturally Christian. In South Louisiana where I live, there are so many people who are living very immoral lives but their culture is Catholic. They baptize in the Church, they go to Mass on Christmas and Easter, and they call themselves Catholic, even though they don't really practice it.

Many people in this country are culturally Christian and there aren't many people who will admit to being an atheist. There are some people who are not very religious but if you asked them is there a God, or is there an after life they will say I'm not sure, or yes.

It doesn't matter if you choose to believe it or not it's a fact:

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So… what do we learn from that information?

Of the prisoners willing to give their religious affiliations (and that’s an important caveat), atheists make up 0.07% of the prison population.

Not 1%.

Not even the 0.2% we’ve been using for so long.

Atheists constitute an even smaller percentage of the prison population than we ever imagined. (That includes prisoners whose affiliations were unknown. If I used Golumbaski’s method, the number would be 0.09%.)

In addition to that, Protestants make up 28.7% of the prison population; Catholics, 24%; Muslims, 5.5%; American Indians, 3.1%. I’ve put together a bare-bones spreadsheet with these numbers here — feel free to do with that what you will.

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