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re: Former CBO Director: Trump’s tax plan is built on a fairy tale

Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:22 pm to
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Former CBO Director: Trump’s tax plan is built on a fairy tale


The fairy tale that such a thing as "private property" exists?
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:22 pm to
CBO, bought and paid for by the Demwit party.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10334 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:30 pm to
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a want


Hack...down vote...exit thread.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:33 pm to
I don't give a crap if it adds to the deficit or not.

What adds to the deficit is the spending they refuse to address--massive welfare, perpetual war, interest on the debt they took on to bail out car makers and big banks, farm subsidies, crazy studies, UN and foreign bribes and on and on.

It's time they quit taking so much money from me and my company.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Well....the point is: this is a guy who know what he's talking about and he calls it a fairy tale.


I understand the point but he is one guy. I have not read anything that describes the entire plan or what might actually get passed. It's all bullet points.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:36 pm to
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It's time they quit taking so much money from me and my company.


You know.

I couldn't agree with this more.

Sadly I doubt that the actual tax cuts trickle down to my bracket. I don't make 7 figures.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:37 pm to
He's head of the American Action Forum... a liberal leftist group. Eff him.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:38 pm to
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Just in general it is pretty well established that tax cuts do tend to drive growth, but not enough to offset huge cuts.

Not necessarily. See the quote in the OP about that general idea.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:39 pm to
Nobody cares what anyone associated with the CBO thinks. They're wrong more than right
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:41 pm to
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Schumer and the gang are going to point to the CBO score of this plan, which is going to say it will grow the debt by trillions of dollars in the next 10 years – that you can guarantee. It won’t, at least probably not, because the CBO will score the plan based on a static accounting of the economy and the entire point of a big across-the-board tax cut like this is to grow the economy. This tax cut will spark economic activity, probably in a major way, but CBO’s budget scoring of it won’t account for that. And Trump will be accused of blowing a hole in the budget, and the Democrats will then make demands for tax increases elsewhere to fill the hole.


They are right. We need to cut entitlements to "pay" for these tax cuts.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17025 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Do you actually think these proposed cuts would actually result in a net positive in terms of federal revenue?


It's been done before, numerous times. Tax cuts do not mean decreased revenue. People don't seem to understand that.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:08 pm to
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Not necessarily. See the quote in the OP about that general idea.


Oh I know. It's not like it always does.

But it is a very large distance between producing some growth in GDP and producing enough growth to offset the drop in revenue. In fact there is no American historical data of that happening.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:09 pm to
I do
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:20 pm to
Do you honestly think it takes a 7 figure income for you to get any benefits. From the one page bullet point plan out out today?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:25 pm to
Doubling the standard deduction will help lower middle class folks a lot
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:12 pm to
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Well....let's cut to the chase then.

Do you actually think these proposed cuts would actually result in a net positive in terms of federal revenue?

C'mon man.


They did with Reagan....next question

Oh...and fricking melt bitch
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15421 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:19 pm to
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Also, Obamas deficits were lower than W's. FYI.
That's funny. Barrack Hussein Obama averaged roughly 1.1 trillion in new debt every year.

Almost double Dubya.

You have possibly the worst grasp of math of anyone I've encountered.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8510 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:54 am to
The CBO is a joke...
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4476 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:45 am to
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I would have spent it or paid off debt which would increase my spending power which would lead me to eat out another night a week or buy more beer or play more golf or whatever but I would spend more. So would 95% of americans because thats our behavior. We have more cash, we buy more.


Marginal propensity to consume isn't 100% bro
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4792 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:56 am to
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Former CBO Director: Trump’s tax plan is built on a fairy tale by a want
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You think I really give a frick about federal revenue?

So you don't care about the national debt or budget deficit?

See Trump's latest budget. He didn't cut spending. So that pretty much just leaves revenue.




This tax cut would cut the deficit. Why? Because of the growth. 3% growth vs 2% growth means big things for thgrowth economy and our debt long term. Think in terms of compound interest. Our debt to revenue ratio would go from %120 to about %50 over time.
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