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Former CBO Director: Trump’s tax plan is built on a fairy tale

Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:26 pm
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:26 pm
Shocker! It's poorly planned-out! I can't believe it!

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Proposing trillions of dollars in tax cuts and then casually asserting that such a plan would “pay for itself with growth,” as Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said, is detached from empirical reality. A real tax-reform plan would include specifics on how to broaden the tax base — not leave that hard work to Congress. A responsible tax plan would not ignore the threat of increasing a national debt that is already on an unsustainable course.

Accelerating the pace at which the federal budget bleeds red ink must be avoided, and building a tax plan based solely on the premise of future economic growth is dangerous. Sailing straight into a sovereign debt crisis is not a pro-growth strategy. What firm would want to headquarter in a country that is toying with financial meltdown accompanied by emergency austerity and tax hikes?

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But never has a dynamically scored analysis concluded that a proposal would “pay for itself with growth,” and no serious economist would make such a claim. At best, according to the prevailing consensus, the positive feedback effect from tax cuts would recoup in the range of 25 to 35 percent of the cost.



CBO Director 2003-2005
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:27 pm to
Your posts are built on a fairy tale.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:27 pm to
Dude is batting 0.0000, no one cares what he thinks
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:27 pm to
another WaPo link by a want . . . who coulda seen it coming?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:28 pm to
Has the CBO ever been correct?
Posted by Shenanigans
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:28 pm to
melt
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:28 pm to
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as the CBO ever been correct?
nope
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Schumer and the gang are going to point to the CBO score of this plan, which is going to say it will grow the debt by trillions of dollars in the next 10 years – that you can guarantee. It won’t, at least probably not, because the CBO will score the plan based on a static accounting of the economy and the entire point of a big across-the-board tax cut like this is to grow the economy. This tax cut will spark economic activity, probably in a major way, but CBO’s budget scoring of it won’t account for that. And Trump will be accused of blowing a hole in the budget, and the Democrats will then make demands for tax increases elsewhere to fill the hole.

Hopefully the president and his people are prepared for that, and hopefully the message in response is about economic growth and a reduction of the size and scope of government. There is an economic case to be made about increasing the standard of living for working people, applying upward pressure to wages by freeing up business capital, attracting investment into the American economy, restarting the failing engine of entrepreneurship and reversing the awful trend during the Obama administration in which there were fewer businesses extant in each of Obama’s years in office than the previous year and launching a sizable economic boom which takes people off welfare rolls and makes them taxpayers, and the salutary budgetary effects of such a vision.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:29 pm to
Well....let's cut to the chase then.

Do you actually think these proposed cuts would actually result in a net positive in terms of federal revenue?

C'mon man.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Proposing trillions of dollars in tax cuts and then casually asserting that such a plan would “pay for itself with growth,” as Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said, is detached from empirical reality. A real tax-reform plan would include specifics on how to broaden the tax base — not leave that hard work to Congress. A responsible tax plan would not ignore the threat of increasing a national debt that is already on an unsustainable course.

Accelerating the pace at which the federal budget bleeds red ink must be avoided, and building a tax plan based solely on the premise of future economic growth is dangerous. Sailing straight into a sovereign debt crisis is not a pro-growth strategy. What firm would want to headquarter in a country that is toying with financial meltdown accompanied by emergency austerity and tax hikes?

...

But never has a dynamically scored analysis concluded that a proposal would “pay for itself with growth,” and no serious economist would make such a claim. At best, according to the prevailing consensus, the positive feedback effect from tax cuts would recoup in the range of 25 to 35 percent of the cost.



Posted by Shenanigans
Spring Hill, TN
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:30 pm to
I don't think you understand how that meme works.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted by stinkdawg
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:31 pm to
But the old CBO director was a homo pedi. Your move.
Posted by Sable Hat
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:31 pm to
Melt bitch
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Do you actually think these proposed cuts would actually result in a net positive in terms of federal revenue?


You think I really give a frick about federal revenue?
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:33 pm to
CBO...got to be ironclad...they ain't never been wrong, not even a smigen...
Posted by ChopBlockOclock
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:36 pm to
As someone who does taxes for a living these tax cuts will be great for middle class. I ran a projection on my income around 100K, married and one child assuming this years taxes vs. the proposed tax cuts and I would have saved approximately 5K in taxes assuming I stayed in the same 25% bracket. I would have spent it or paid off debt which would increase my spending power which would lead me to eat out another night a week or buy more beer or play more golf or whatever but I would spend more. So would 95% of americans because thats our behavior. We have more cash, we buy more. I agree with going all in on supply side economics. Its human behavior to spend excess cash thus stimulating the economy and demand for goods.
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

You think I really give a frick about federal revenue?

So you don't care about the national debt or budget deficit?

See Trump's latest budget. He didn't cut spending. So that pretty much just leaves revenue.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:38 pm to
I bet if trump keep the estate tax and amt this would pass
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