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re: FCC announces plan to reverse Title II net neutrality
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:45 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:45 pm to LSURussian
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:47 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This is just like a few weeks ago the fat **** doctor on United. That plane belongs to United, they tell you to get off, get the frick off, it's THEIR plane and they have a contract that says "we can remove you from the plane for yada yada yada"
You're quite wrong, but I don't want to hijack the thread.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:48 pm to Cs
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:48 pm to LSURussian
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If enough customers tell an ISP to frick off because of its internet policies, guess what the ISP will do?
Nothing. That's one of the benefits of being a monopoly, especially when you own a monopoly of a critical service.
You can't be a functional citizen in today's society without an internet connection. So, you have to take what you're given - and the ISPs are very much aware of that.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:49 pm to Cs
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Most people do not have another choice for another ISP. I live in a major metro area and have one choice - Charter. If I moved to the other side of the city I would still have one choice, but it would be with Comcast. In Baton Rouge, or anywhere in Louisiana, your only actual option is Cox. DSL is a far slower technology that simply can't compete. So that's the reality. What happens when the handful of mega ISPs start requiring you to pay $150+ per month for the "full tier" internet package that allows you to visit any website you want, while all other cheaper internet packages block access to most sites, such as this one? The market can't punish them because there is no market.
I guess power companies sort of fall into the same category due to their infrastructure.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:49 pm to Cs
So I'm guessing this is bad news for streamers?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:51 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Do you know how full of shite you are?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:51 pm to Uncle JackD
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So I'm guessing this is bad news for streamers?
It's bad news for everyone except the Big ISPs but they write checks that get Republicans elected so they get what they want.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:54 pm to Cs
Good. Another step towards moving things back under the FTC. I've never understand the love affair that so many have with the Obama admin regs that moved ISP under the FCC. Please tell me of one time that heaping layers and layers of new regs on an industry worked out for the good of the consumer in the end. Anyone that claims to be conservative or libertarian should fully support these moves by the Trump admin.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:55 pm to Haughton99
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It's bad news for everyone except the Big ISPs but they write checks that get politicians elected so they get what they want.
Fixed, both sides play this game.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:57 pm to i am dan
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:57 pm to Haughton99
facebook, google, Netflix and the rest of the members of The Internet Association are republican donors now? Are you serious? These liberal leaning companies create regulation within the states that is beneficial to them. Because of government regulation you call for regulation to fix that regulation. And if it doesn't happen it's because of Republicans? Amazing. (ETA: I know those companies aren't ISPs..they are members of the association in the OP)This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:58 pm to rds dc
quote:A sentence evergreen in its wrongness
Anyone that claims to be conservative or libertarian should fully support these moves by the Trump admin.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:01 pm to rds dc
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Please tell me of one time that heaping layers and layers of new regs on an industry worked out for the good of the consumer in the end.
Net Neutrality is a great example of this. When you have a market that is not free and little to know competition then you have to have some sort of oversight to keep the company with the monopoly from screwing the consumer.
Please tell me how ISPs being able to tier internet access like Cable TV helps consumers.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:02 pm to Cs
I really don't see anything in those links that proves your original statement. The government wanted companies to have an incentive to provide service to hard to access areas.
The companies say they met the government's requirements and the government agencies, one of them the FCC, agreed with them. If you don't think those agencies did their job, just remember those same government bureaucrats would be enforcing net neutrality on ISP's.
Stringing cable, fiber or otherwise, to provide internet service is a dinosaur technology.
I have at least 5 providers I could use for data/internet services where I live and only one of them has a wire coming into my house.
The companies say they met the government's requirements and the government agencies, one of them the FCC, agreed with them. If you don't think those agencies did their job, just remember those same government bureaucrats would be enforcing net neutrality on ISP's.
Stringing cable, fiber or otherwise, to provide internet service is a dinosaur technology.
I have at least 5 providers I could use for data/internet services where I live and only one of them has a wire coming into my house.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:04 pm to i am dan
quote:Nah, I had a really good shite about an hour ago. I'm good.....
LSURussian
Do you know how full of shite you are?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:04 pm to t00f
This is exactly what I said about those stupid flyers that were going around with tiers of internet service that offered access to facebook, netflix, twitter, etc at different price levels:
This doesn't just apply to Netflix. This applies to pretty much all of the paid OTT services. Now there might be a problem for Kodi on the horizon potentially.
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At least one big supporter of net neutrality — Netflix — has tempered its rhetoric recently. The streaming-video company said in January that weaker net neutrality wouldn't hurt it because it's now too popular with users for broadband providers to interfere with its service. The company added that it still supports net neutrality "on a public policy basis."
This doesn't just apply to Netflix. This applies to pretty much all of the paid OTT services. Now there might be a problem for Kodi on the horizon potentially.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:05 pm to BBONDS25
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facebook, google, Netflix and the rest of the members of The Internet Association are republican donors now? Are you serious? These liberal leaning companies create regulation within the states that is beneficial to them. Because of government regulation you call for regulation to fix that regulation. And if it doesn't happen it's because of Republicans? Amazing. (ETA: I know those companies aren't ISPs..they are members of the association in the OP)
Your post makes no sense at all. The Internet Association is for Net Neutrality.
ISPs are the gate keepers to the internet. You can't reach Google, Netflix, etc without one. The Internet Associations and most a majority of consumers want all internet traffic treated equally and for the ISPs not to be able to throttle or outright block access to sites for profit.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:08 pm to LSURussian
quote:Yea, with all the ISPs being available in every city or state.
I'm confident if an ISP did that indiscriminately the market would punish them by customers switching to other ISP's.
If these ISPs didn't have local monopolies, your point would stand.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:13 pm to LSU316
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This doesn't just apply to Netflix. This applies to pretty much all of the paid OTT services. Now there might be a problem for Kodi on the horizon potentially.
Possibly if they go back to light touch policy. The ISP's that are also TV providers have been chomping at the bit to increase their revenue stream with streaming services that people are using now instead of TV.
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