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re: CNN: Russia investigation going so badly that investigators are buying insurance
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:28 am to notsince98
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:28 am to notsince98
Do they know how insurance works? 
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:29 am to Bob Sacamano
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Why not just walk away from it if the investigation is going so badly?
Because they are balls deep in and there is too much pressure to pull out.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:36 am to ShortyRob
quote:Yeah. That doesn't make much sense, because lawsuits happen all the time from the most legitimate reasons to absolutely absurd reasons.
So, these lawyers purchased insurance against something that will never happen?
That's strange.
And given the nature of this investigation, even if the investigation is the textbook example of best practices, they will probably be sued regardless of the outcome because someone will be unhappy with it. So depending on the outcome that could be someone anywhere on the politcal spectrum.
So I don't think we can assume the reasons for this extra protection when they probably need it regardless.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:56 am to LSUTANGERINE
Serious question - would the liability insurance pay for defense against "revenge" lawsuits or would it only cover monetary loss if they lost such a lawsuit?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:07 am to notsince98
Trump's lawyer is hot about the Manafort raid and suggests that they'll make a motion to suppress. Wonder if he believes the Feds scooped up something incriminating against Trump.
Fox News, 8.10.17
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A top lawyer for President Trump slammed the special counsel’s office over the FBI raid of former campaign manager Paul Manafort’s Virginia home, accusing investigators of committing a “gross abuse of the judicial process” for the sake of “shock value” – and employing tactics normally seen “in Russia not America.”
Trump attorney John Dowd leveled the complaints in an email sent to a Wall Street Journal reporter who wrote about the Manafort raid. The email was obtained by Fox News.
The email reflects Trump’s legal team moving to protect the president, amid speculation that the raid could be part of a broader effort to squeeze Manafort for information on Trump.
Fox News, 8.10.17
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:09 am to notsince98
If they were investigating Hillary they'd need life insurance....
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:09 am to TigerDoc
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Trump's lawyer is hot about the Manafort raid and suggests that they'll make a motion to suppress. Wonder if he believes the Feds scooped up something incriminating against Trump.
or just protecting manafort from another form of doxxing.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:10 am to TigerDoc
Keep that hope alive.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:11 am to TigerDoc
Federal investigators sought cooperation from Paul Manafort’s son-in-law in an effort to increase pressure on President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, according to three people familiar with the probe.
Investigators approached Jeffrey Yohai, who has partnered in business deals with Manafort, earlier this summer, setting off “real waves” in Manafort’s orbit, one of these people said. Another of these people said investigators are trying to get “into Manafort’s head.”
Mueller’s targeting of both Manafort and his son-in-law over potential criminal wrongdoing is a familiar tactic in white-collar cases, commonly called “climbing the ladder.”
The approach involves finding a suspected crime — false statements on tax returns or loan applications, for example — and then offering leniency on prosecution in exchange for cooperation. “They always start with the people on the low end of the ladder and try to get information on someone high up on the ladder,” said William Jeffress, a white-collar attorney who represented Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, in the President George W. Bush-era Valerie Plame leak investigation.
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Investigators approached Jeffrey Yohai, who has partnered in business deals with Manafort, earlier this summer, setting off “real waves” in Manafort’s orbit, one of these people said. Another of these people said investigators are trying to get “into Manafort’s head.”
Mueller’s targeting of both Manafort and his son-in-law over potential criminal wrongdoing is a familiar tactic in white-collar cases, commonly called “climbing the ladder.”
The approach involves finding a suspected crime — false statements on tax returns or loan applications, for example — and then offering leniency on prosecution in exchange for cooperation. “They always start with the people on the low end of the ladder and try to get information on someone high up on the ladder,” said William Jeffress, a white-collar attorney who represented Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, in the President George W. Bush-era Valerie Plame leak investigation.
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:14 am to Jbird
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The approach involves finding a suspected crime — false statements on tax returns or loan applications, for example — and then offering leniency on prosecution in exchange for cooperation.
The very definition of a fishing expedition....but I thought Rosenstein said the DOJ does not indulge in that kind of activity
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:41 am to KiwiHead
quote:That's like saying that somebody's date is going so badly that they slip out to the restroom to buy condoms from the vending machine.
CNN: Russia investigation going so badly that investigators are buying insurance
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:42 am to austintigerdad
Keep that hope alive.
You think someone who actually committed a crime would file a civil suit and open themselves to the discovery process?
Idiot.
You think someone who actually committed a crime would file a civil suit and open themselves to the discovery process?
Idiot.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:53 am to notsince98
Lots of Fed Gov people carry Professional Liability Insurance. I carried a 2 million dollar policy during my career.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:55 am to notsince98
Yeah..no.
But keep hoping.
But keep hoping.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 11:56 am to BBONDS25
No, that wouldn't make sense. But there are plenty of deep pocketed allies who could come through in a pinch.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:05 pm to asurob1
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But keep hoping.
What does CNN gain by "hoping" this is true?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:07 pm to Jbird
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The approach involves finding a suspected crime — false statements on tax returns or loan applications, for example — and then offering leniency on prosecution in exchange for cooperation. “They always start with the people on the low end of the ladder and try to get information on someone high up on the ladder,” said William Jeffress, a white-collar attorney who represented Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, in the President George W. Bush-era Valerie Plame leak investigation.
Sounds right. This is such an interesting case. Political corruption, counter-intelligence, and white-collar crime all in the mix.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:10 pm to TigerDoc
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Political corruption, counter-intelligence, and white-collar crime all in the mix
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:10 pm to TigerDoc
quote:fify
This is such an interesting fishing excursion.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 12:16 pm to TigerDoc
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Sounds right. This is such an interesting case. Political corruption, counter-intelligence, and white-collar crime all in the mix.
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