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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:20 pm to DosManos
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More like a culture that breeds chronic masturbators and porn viewers.
Which leads to some of them becoming rapists
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:20 pm to Hawkeye95
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No but you can still get someone drunk pretty easily. Make them very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base, very hard to taste the alcohol and thus the person gets drunk quickly.
For your argument to have any validity, the man would have be actively participate in the actual making of the drink...and actively deceive the woman into what she is drinking. If that happens, I agree it is rape. If all you are doing is buying a girl a drink that she requests, that would not apply, IMO.
As such, what you are talking about happens very minimally. It certainly doesn't rise to a "culture" thing, IMO.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
you are right I wrote it.
I retract my earlier statement. I do not believe its commonplace.
I retract my earlier statement. I do not believe its commonplace.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
so Hawkeye is a liar too.....interdasting.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:21 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Is it sexist to believe she can't be trusted to monitor her own consumption and be held accountable for her actions?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:22 pm to Hawkeye95
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No but you can still get someone drunk pretty easily. Make them very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base, very hard to taste the alcohol and thus the person gets drunk quickly.
Sounds like you know a lot about this sorta thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:22 pm to TN Bhoy
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More like a culture that breeds chronic masturbators and porn viewers.
Which leads to some of them becoming rapists
actually sex and rape are not even really connected. You can check the experts on that, it's more dominance, than sex.
But good effort, good try.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:22 pm to TN Bhoy
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Which leads to some of them becoming rapists
Operative word is "some".
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:22 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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We need to do something about pre-teen girls stabbing friends in order to join SlenderMan "culture"
the best solution to stop "rape culture" is for parents to teach their sons to respect woman. Many parents do this already, and for the ones that don't, I don't think there is much we can do outside of light education in school.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:24 pm to Hawkeye95
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the best solution to stop "rape culture"
you still havent defined this "culture"
you used one example, it was thoroughly eviscerated, and here you are again...
So let's start from the top, please describe this "culture"
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:24 pm to Hawkeye95
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you are right I wrote it.
I retract my earlier statement. I do not believe its commonplace.
This is I don't believe that there is a pervading "rape culture" in this country.
Rapes happen. Obviously. But I have not seen sufficient evidence of rapes being common or accepted. I'd say you need those things for it to be a "culture"
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:24 pm to CptBengal
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actually sex and rape are not even really connected. You can check the experts on that, it's more dominance, than sex.
I agree on that, but chronic masturbation and porn viewing (especially "rough" porn, etc.) have been shown to cause rapists.
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Operative word is "some".
Did I say anything different?
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:25 pm to TN Bhoy
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have been shown to cause rapists.
no they havent, not even statistically. and the stats dont imply causation either.
Your post is the rare single sentence, double fail.
Not a good effort, and not a good try.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:25 pm to moneyg
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the man would have be actively participate in the actual making of the drink
Don't most fraternity houses across the country have certain parties where the members work together to make large batches of hunch punch? Now obviously the girls have a choice whether to drink it or not, but you're naive to think men don't want women to drink more because it loosens their inhibitions. Often times it is consensual sex, and that is not the problem. There are times though that it is not consensual. That is where the problem lies.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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you are right I wrote it.
I retract my earlier statement. I do not believe its commonplace.
This is I don't believe that there is a pervading "rape culture" in this country.
Well I guess this thread is over then.Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:26 pm to TN Bhoy
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but chronic masturbation and porn viewing (especially "rough" porn, etc.) have been shown to cause rapists.
Hide yo' womenz....'cause, by this info...BHP is about to be one busy raping mofo...I am WAAAAY overdo!
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:27 pm to The Spleen
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you're naive to think men don't want women to drink more because it loosens their inhibitions
you are also naive to think women dont drink to loosen their OWN inhibitions.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:27 pm to TN Bhoy
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Did I say anything different?
No, I was just emphasizing the word "some" in the context of the OP and the idea of an entire culture of rape.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:27 pm to The Spleen
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There are times though that it is not consensual. That is where the problem lies.
That sound like the problem of rape. Not an indication of a rape culture.
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