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re: Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"

Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:02 pm to
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. with no stats other than my observations ... that men, in general, discredit how often it occurs and its effects .


what if i told you a statistically significant number of reported "rapes" are false reports?

yet the entire society ignores that portion and uses the total number.

How then could people discredit how often it occurs if they are using data which oversamples the event?
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:02 pm to
fricking feminist bullshite dogma.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:03 pm to
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What do you propose we do about a "scary group of guys" on the internet!? Shut down the fricking internet?

How many scary guys does it take to form a culture? 5? 25? 100? I didn't realize lone wolf losers can compose an entire culture.


Not sure what is so funny about my answer. I was merely replying to the OP that all the talk he is hearing about "rape culture" is probably stemming from that tragedy that took place a couple weeks ago. There are a lot more of those freaks on the internet that could very well act out like that guy did.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:04 pm to
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I don't think we live in a "culture of rape" but rape culture is something that exists.



I don't see what the difference between "rape culture" and "culture of rape" is
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:04 pm to
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so you're forcing her to drink?

interdasting.....


No but you can still get someone drunk pretty easily. Make them very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base, very hard to taste the alcohol and thus the person gets drunk quickly.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
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but it's my opinion ... with no stats other than my observations ... that men, in general, discredit how often it occurs and its effects


Well, from my personal observation, most women I know never talk about rape occurrences or dwell on the effects of rape. Therefore, from my perspective, its the women that are rape discrediting.


Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
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what if i told you a statistically significant number of reported "rapes" are false reports?

do you have link?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
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No but you can still get someone drunk pretty easily. Make them very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base, very hard to taste the alcohol and thus the person gets drunk quickly.



I'd like to see some evidence that this practice is "commonplace"
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:06 pm to
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you can still get someone drunk pretty easily.


hmmm....again, is someone FORCING them to down

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very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base,


Oh wait, no, they still chose to drink.

still interdasting.....tell me more about all these guys forcing women to drink.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:07 pm to
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No but you can still get someone drunk pretty easily. Make them very strong vodka drinks with a sugary base, very hard to taste the alcohol and thus the person gets drunk quickly.






So, NOW....it is a dude surreptitiously getting her drunk. She doesn't even KNOW she is getting drunk.


For fricks (rape?) sake....why not say "using roofies" is bad and is rape. Well, no shite
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:07 pm to
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Not sure what is so funny about my answer.


Nothing you said in particular. I just find it funny (and dangerous) when our society takes the evil doing of one crazy son of a bitch and extrapolates it to an entire "culture".
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:09 pm to
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do you have link?


here's one with a 6% rate over 10 years. There's many many more studies too
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
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do you have link?


quote:

here's one with a 6% rate over 10 years. There's many many more studies too






I find it interesting that "rape culture is real" and "most men {ignore}"...ALL based upon "it feels right to me...my opinion"


Yet, YOUR ASSERTION needs a 'link' for substantiation.


Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
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I just find it funny (and dangerous) when our society takes the evil doing of one crazy son of a bitch and extrapolates it to an entire "culture".


I agree that things get sensationalized for TV ratings but also think it is important to try and understand why a nut job like that guy felt he had to go to such extremes and are more out there like him.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:14 pm to
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are more out there like him.



do you know this?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:16 pm to
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I'd like to see some evidence that this practice is "commonplace"


I don't believe I ever said it was commonplace.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:17 pm to
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I don't believe I ever said it was commonplace.



but a "culture" implies a widespread adoption of these similar behaviors by the population.

if there is a rape "culture" and this isnt widespread, youve just trashed your own argument.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:18 pm to
Culture of instant gratification + culture that makes men feel weak/useless = culture that breeds rapists


Feminists share some of the blame.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Culture of instant gratification + culture that makes men feel weak/useless = culture that breeds rapists



More like a culture that breeds chronic masturbators and porn viewers.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:20 pm to
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.

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