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re: Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:44 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:44 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Meh. I'll buy that this if the girl would not have had sex without the alcohol.
If a girl is going into the night looking to get laid, gets drunk, and gets the dick that she's decided she wanted before getting drunk, I don't consider that rape.
I'd say the my scenario is much more commonplace than the "girl had sex ONLY because a guy liquored her up"
ETA: and as others have pointed out, just because this does happen, does not mean we live in a culture of rape.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:47 pm
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:46 pm to Hawkeye95
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and rape culture is a real thing.
In the US? Is it now acceptable to commit rape? You're out of your fricking mind.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:48 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Well, sometimes . . . .
Woman can also rape men by doing the same thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:48 pm to Hawkeye95
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The problem is the line is different for everyone, as alcohol effects people differently.
So we should be examined by a physician as we leave the bar then sign a consent agreement with a notary present?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:49 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
To me, this is hazy and a hell of a bait-and-switch for an otherwise unsuspecting and innocent college guy.
If a girl goes out with the intention of hooking up and having sex, does her consumption of alcohol now make engaging in such an act a perpetration of rape by the male?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:49 pm to the808bass
dunno, but most men have long overlooked rape, its occurrence, and its effects ...
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:49 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Wow!
and rape culture is a real thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:51 pm to Hawkeye95
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If you are giving a female enough alcohol so that her capacity is diminished to the point she cannot consent, you are raping her.
Well, tell her to stop using that vagina to be "given" alcohol and problem solved?
If SHE simply purchases the alcohol and gets "raped", then no more 'rape culture'...right?
Because, you seem to imply that it is the "giving a female" alcohol that is the issue. Not, the simple act of RAPE.
Thus, IF she uses her money or her vagina to "purchase" the alcohol...the "rape culture" is null and void.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:51 pm to tiderider
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dunno, but most men have long overlooked rape, its occurrence, and its effects ...
Huh? Such a ridiculous, moronic statement. You sound like you are regurgitating whatever Anderson Cooper told you to believe.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:52 pm to DosManos
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DosManos
Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"
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dunno, but most men have long overlooked rape, its occurrence, and its effects ...
Huh? Such a ridiculous, moronic statement. You sound like you are regurgitating whatever Anderson Cooper told you to believe.
can't remember the last time i watched cnn ... or fox ...
but thanks for playing the internet ...
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:54 pm to Hawkeye95
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very different than getting a girl drunk on your first date and then sleeping together.
so you're forcing her to drink?
interdasting.....
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:54 pm to tiderider
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but most men have long overlooked rape, its occurrence, and its effects ...
Can you at least cite your source for "MOST men"?
I'd be curious to know the source of the majority and the methodology of the data gathering.
Thanks
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:55 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
and rape culture is a real thing.
describe this "culture" for me please....
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:56 pm to tiderider
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can't remember the last time i watched cnn ... or fox ...
but thanks for playing the internet ...
Then please post how you uncovered such pertinent information.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Those poor, pitiful, helpless women.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:57 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I wouldn't call it a rape culture but there is a scary group of guys out there posting on message boards spouting hateful rhetoric about women like that shooter in California all because women won't sleep with them.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:57 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Can you at least cite your source for "MOST men"?
I'd be curious to know the source of the majority and the methodology of the data gathering.
Pervert!
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:58 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
BlackHelicopterPilot
Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"
quote:
but most men have long overlooked rape, its occurrence, and its effects ...
Can you at least cite your source for "MOST men"?
I'd be curious to know the source of the majority and the methodology of the data gathering.
Thanks
don't have a source and probably shouldn't have used "most", but it's my opinion ... with no stats other than my observations ... that men, in general, discredit how often it occurs and its effects ... not sure what cnn has to do with that opinion, but it's the internet ...
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:59 pm to AngryBeavers
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I wouldn't call it a rape culture but there is a scary group of guys out there posting on message boards spouting hateful rhetoric about women like that shooter in California all because women won't sleep with them.
What do you propose we do about a "scary group of guys" on the internet!? Shut down the fricking internet? How many scary guys does it take to form a culture? 5? 25? 100? I didn't realize lone wolf losers can compose an entire culture.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If a girl is going into the night looking to get laid, gets drunk, and gets the dick that she's decided she wanted before getting drunk, I don't consider that rape.
neither would I.
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ETA: and as others have pointed out, just because this does happen, does not mean we live in a culture of rape.
I don't think we live in a "culture of rape" but rape culture is something that exists.
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