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re: Bush slow to go to New Orleans---Obama slow to go to the border
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:18 pm to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:18 pm to Vegas Bengal
we've moved on to a more present topic
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:19 pm to Choctaw
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THEN DON'T COME HERE ILLEGALLY!!
you are naive to the way the world works. Borders should be more open and not less. there should be easier paths to citizenship no matter how one got here.
you know its like globalization of the resources of the world. there should be a globalization of the labor resource as well.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:19 pm to Choctaw
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exactly why VB has completely made this thread about Katrina
Perhaps because of the thread's title.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:22 pm to petar
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you are naive to the way the world works
i've been all over this world. i have a pretty good understanding of how it works. and i can tell you this....try sneaking over the border of nearly any other country on this planet and see what happens.
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Borders should be more open and not less
false
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there should be easier paths to citizenship no matter how one got here.
easier path legally
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there should be a globalization of the labor resource as well.
fine...just do it legally
i get the impression you're for an open borders policy
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:32 pm to Vegas Bengal
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10. Five days after the storm hit, then-Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) was allowed through the military checkpoints and given a national guard escort in order to visit his house. Jefferson said he was on tour of his flooded district and trying to examine the damage.
Good times, good times.
I could tell stories - but the timeline doesn't sound right, though. The storm hit early Monday morning - I thought that happened before we got the port-a-johns, which would have been late Thursday or late Friday. It was definitely before Saturday (we got doughnuts, but most of the evacuation was completed).
It was definitely before Saturday.
(ETA: In case you can't tell - I remember those events in kind of a specific sequence - don't quote me, though - if the papers say Cold Cash got stuck at his house on Saturday night - who am I to dispute it? Thank G-d I don't have access to my logs from back then.)
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:34 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Hundreds of firefighters from other cities who volunteered to help in the response were rerouted to Atlanta, where they sat through two days of presentations on sexual harassment and the history of FEMA before being sent to New Orleans.
If you're advocating abolishing FEMA, then I'm 100% in agreement.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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If you're advocating abolishing FEMA, then I'm 100% in agreement.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:36 pm to I B Freeman
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Where is the outrage from the left
takes a couple of days to get the talking points out
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:37 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Local govt sucked in NOLA. No doubt.
What an understatement. How many pages did it take for you to finally admit that?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:40 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Yes, DC has to OK it.
No, they don't. Research the difference between Title 32 and Title 10.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:41 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:This.
Research the difference between Title 32 and Title 10.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:43 pm to Wolfhound45
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No, they don't. Research the difference between Title 32 and Title 10.
VB is really out of his element here.
All those reciprocal agreements had to be signed by the governors - in fact we had to have a Title 32/Title 10 wall - Honore was in charge of Title 10, and Landreneau over Title 32.
It was a f*cking mess - a clusterf*ck of epic, Biblical proportions and it lies, primarily, at the feet of a liberal, female, democratic governor - although there is more than enough blame to go around.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:44 pm to Ace Midnight
I could tell you a few myself but I don't want to implicate the people. 
I'll just say one lawyer got an escort to get his files out. Another bar owner got an escort to get the money out his safe.
I snuck back in as soon as the electricity turned back on in the quarter. Don't recall the exact date. I was greeted by the national guard with guns surrounding my car. My dog did not take being a refugee well. Had seizures and the shits. So I snuck back in and begged to be let back in showing them my poor trembling dog.
I drove in from uptown Carrolton area and saw the destruction. I thought it would be years to get things back in order. I got back to my place on Urusulines. I was the only car on the street. My dog was so happy, she ran all the way up the street to Rampart, then all the way up Chartres and back.
I ate MRE's supplied by the Red Cross. At night it felt like we were on a deserted island. Black night with absolutely no lights anywhere except the quarter. An armed guard at WWL walked over to me and said "You have any problems, come to me. I shoot first and ask questions later."
I rented my extra bedroom to FEMA for a nice $110 per night to a FEMA worker. My dog and I sat drinking that stipend at Johnny Whites every day. She'd sit on the bar drinking her bottled water from a cup. (we didn't drink tap water during those days.) I always wondered about people drinking in bars in the day time until then.
There was a curfew at night. Nothing on TV but what we could catch with an antenna and that was WWL coverage of the storm 24/7.
My dog became like a mascot of the guard troops from across the country stationed there. They loved her. Said I should run her against Nagin. I have no doubt she'd have won. I have a bunch of pics of her with them when they left. They wanted to tell her bye.
Ah the stories I could tell about avoiding curfew... and getting caught.
Good times.
I'll just say one lawyer got an escort to get his files out. Another bar owner got an escort to get the money out his safe. I snuck back in as soon as the electricity turned back on in the quarter. Don't recall the exact date. I was greeted by the national guard with guns surrounding my car. My dog did not take being a refugee well. Had seizures and the shits. So I snuck back in and begged to be let back in showing them my poor trembling dog.
I drove in from uptown Carrolton area and saw the destruction. I thought it would be years to get things back in order. I got back to my place on Urusulines. I was the only car on the street. My dog was so happy, she ran all the way up the street to Rampart, then all the way up Chartres and back.
I ate MRE's supplied by the Red Cross. At night it felt like we were on a deserted island. Black night with absolutely no lights anywhere except the quarter. An armed guard at WWL walked over to me and said "You have any problems, come to me. I shoot first and ask questions later."
I rented my extra bedroom to FEMA for a nice $110 per night to a FEMA worker. My dog and I sat drinking that stipend at Johnny Whites every day. She'd sit on the bar drinking her bottled water from a cup. (we didn't drink tap water during those days.) I always wondered about people drinking in bars in the day time until then.
There was a curfew at night. Nothing on TV but what we could catch with an antenna and that was WWL coverage of the storm 24/7.
My dog became like a mascot of the guard troops from across the country stationed there. They loved her. Said I should run her against Nagin. I have no doubt she'd have won. I have a bunch of pics of her with them when they left. They wanted to tell her bye.
Ah the stories I could tell about avoiding curfew... and getting caught.
Good times.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:46 pm to Ace Midnight
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VB is really out of his element here.
All those reciprocal agreements had to be signed by the governors - in fact we had to have a Title 32/Title 10 wall - Honore was in charge of Title 10, and Landreneau over Title 32.
It was a f*cking mess - a clusterf*ck of epic, Biblical proportions and it lies, primarily, at the feet of a liberal, female, democratic governor - although there is more than enough blame to go around.
Bull shite.
Blanco never signed off. So if the governor was required to sign off before troops were sent, then how were troops sent?
And I'm quoting the NY Times which is quoting the Pentagon and quoting the governor of New Mexico.
So it's not my opinion.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:46 pm to I B Freeman
During Katrina, why did the government distribute spending cards? Was it to give everyone a means to go buy groceries at local stores when none were open? I always wondered.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:47 pm to Vegas Bengal
And by the way... Blanco is about as "liberal" as Huntsman is a conservative. And the fact that you would call her liberal shows the dog you have in this fight.
And the fact that you would call her liberal shows the dog you have in this fight.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:49 pm to Porky
I didn't get a "spending card," but got an unsolicited deposit into my bank account, as I recall. What was it, a couple of hundred bucks? As to the why? Well, you know what they say about gift horses.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:49 pm to Porky
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During Katrina, why did the government distribute spending cards? Was it to give everyone a means to go buy groceries at local stores when none were open? I always wondered.
The gov't didn't distribute spending cards. That was the Red Cross. And those were given everywhere BUT New Orleans. I was told there was no office in NOLA to distribute them.
We did get FEMA checks though.
ETA: Wait.. just remembered... I believe there was a one time SNAP card issued. I didn't get it but I remember people got it.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:50 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:I agree it's an invalid juxtaposition.
Perhaps because of the thread's title.
Bush should have anticipated the criminally corrupt local atmosphere in New Orleans would result in a hurricane response akin to that of a banana republic. He should have anticipated the presence of a metal invalid in the Governor's Mansion would complicate that response.
Obama should have anticipated state governments with far more competency in border matters and illegal immigration than WashDC, would produce better plans than he could.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:51 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Well, you know what they say about gift horses.
Yes I do.
...and you make a very good point.
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