re: Bush slow to go to New Orleans---Obama slow to go to the border

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The night Katrina hit, Blanco called him at 2 am and said "please send me all you've got."

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holy shite...what orifice did you pull this from?

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. The tragedy that happened in New Orleans was a direct result of a failure by Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco.

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I completely disagree. There are several things in the aftermath that bush could have done and he dd not.

Not saying there wasn't huge blame to be put on Nagin and Blanco, but Bush's name should be mentioned on the list as well.

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Stop whitewashing/ignoring the Democratic leadership failures in Katrina.

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I think not mentioning both sides failures is whitewashing the issues as well.

on August 27th Bush authorized federal resources....on August 28th Blanco asked for more.

on September 2nd Bush met with Blanco and offered to federalize the National Guard...Blanco declined.

Bush continued to request federalization of the Guard...so this time Blanco rejected his offer in writing

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petar

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I put President Bush on that list. However, he cannot overcome time and space simply by a directive. Supplies have to be found, vehicles, drivers, distance has to be driven, staging areas designated, communications established. It is simple logistics. This is what I do for a living and have been personally involved in the federal response to four major hurricanes.

All of that would have been mitigated had Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco ordered and enforced an evacuation of New Orleans and the surrounding area. How well did Mississippi, Alabama and Texas fare? Not nearly the same problems in magnitude and hence easier to respond to and manage.

Take some time to study federal Disaster Roles and Responsibilities under the NIMS. It takes time to get a federal response in place.

Plan, Prepare, Mitigate. That is the first strategy.

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No, it is not. It is a delineation of federal versus state/local authorities. The tragedy that happened in New Orleans was a direct result of a failure by Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco. T

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You continue to defend Bush at every turn and claim you're not defending him.

Lets look at the facts and not opinion shall we?

9:30 Sunday Nagin issues first ever mandatory evacuation.

That afternoon, Bush warned by the National Hurricane Center of possible breach in the levees.

Monday morning Bush notified Levees breached.

Bush photographed with McCain at his birthday party.

17th st canal breached, Nola flooding.

bush promotes Medicare benefits in Ariz.

430 Bush flies to CA to promote Medicare drug benefit

8pm blanco calls bush asking for everything he's got. Bush goes to bed.

Tuesday morning, bush speaks at Coronado re iraq.

Mass looting. (As a side note, my best friends condo us burned in the chaos)

2pm Bush plays guitar with country singer Mark Willis

That night Bush returns to Crawford on his vacation.

Wednesday morning.


FEMA tells Brown people are dying in the super dome

Bush organizes a task force to deal with Katrina

Bush flies over New Orleans

Blanco repeatedly calls Bush and when she gets him asks for 40,000 troops

4pm bush speaks on Katrina

Thursday

Bush says levee breach unexpected

Nola in chaos

Friday bush watches DVD of Katrina reports

Saturday

Bush blames Nagin and blanco

That's the facts jack

And you defend him.

And you dare say Obama supporters defend him no matter what.

Obama hates light brown people!!!

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Say what you want (and of course it was two different storms) but Obama handling Sandy > bush handling Katrina.
I'm not saying it wasn't botched by all those involved Blanco, Nagin, Bush, Brown, and the others but saying Bush could not have done more is pretty politically biased.

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I'm going to agree with this here, and I can't stand Obama and view Bush as a better leader overall and much more likable personality.

It is important to note, though, that the Obama Administration took careful notes of the Bush Administration's screw-ups in response to Katrina. They at least had benefit to make damn sure they're weren't caught with their pants down should Sandy have turned into the overal disaster that Katrina was.

I would also say, to an extent, the same could be applied to Blanco/Jindal differences in hurricane responses. Was Blanco overall a poor leader who was caught over her head? Sure.

But every hurricane, or even tropical storm, preparation during the Jindal Administration has been handled with almost going overboard a bit. However, that's because the Jindal Administration is going to make damn sure they don't get shlacked over that issue like Blanco's did.

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Who better to react than local government? If they are failing utterly then what good can President Bush do?

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Nola was under water or burning. Mass looting. Chaos. And you want local govt to do it all?

When there was no local govt to speak of.

frick you

The reality of the situation is our former elected and several currently serving politicians in the state of LA were presented several times the exact scenario from an LSU civil engineering professor that devastated LA in 2005. I ironically attended the same presentation given before at LSU in July of 2005.

The tragedy occurred because our politicians failed to act on these warnings and partly because they didn't want to spend the money.

So I accept no bs excuses from our LA politicians regarding the issue.

If y'all understood the level of shite done on the state level now you wouldn't be trying to deflect it on the federal govt.

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The tragedy occurred because our politicians failed to act on these warnings and partly because they didn't want to spend the money.

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Unfortunately much time and money had already been spent using the Army Corps of Engineers and they have been the problem. But, who do we go to fix it? The Army Corps of Engineers. They are high on the list for the worst things to happen to South Louisiana.