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Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:34 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:The sanctions were put on Russia by Congress via a law, not by the State Department by Executive Order.
I imagine it won't be long into the first term before the sanctions on Russia are rolled back.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:35 pm to LSUneaux
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Mark Levin says the more the left panics, the better the pick. Great rule of thumb.
Mark did not like this pick last night on his show
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:35 pm to LSURussian
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The sanctions were put on Russia by Congress via a law, not by the State Department by Executive Order.
Will be interesting to see how Russia hawks in Congress respond. Honestly, how can this be seen as anything but pushback against congressional pressure re Russia?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:38 pm to russellvillehog
Levin wants Neocon John Bolton
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:39 pm to joshnorris14
Just a cohencidence, I'm sure.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:39 pm to joshnorris14
I'm quite aware. I only listen to cuck levin to LOL at him as he melts every night over something trump did.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:40 pm to joshnorris14
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Levin wants Neocon John Bolton
Sounds like Bolton might be his deputy.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:41 pm to Pettifogger
I like and respect you too. apologies for going overboard.
That being said, I think it is the very definition of diplomacy to out people with successful history deaing with Russia in charge of our diplomatic branch.
There are 3 options.
1. Stay "chummy" with them, learning much and gaining influence over time.
2. Stay intractable. Learn nothing, expect violent conflict in the future.
3. Be adversarial, sanction and attack them, making the economy worse for the people of both countries.
Option 1 is the way to go, even with North Korea, Iran, Israel, Russia, Saudi etc. If America wants to be more prosperous, then they have to start setting the example for sane diplomacy. Obviously there is a lot more to this I can't hit typing on my phone.
anyhoo, JMO. Sorry if I offended.
That being said, I think it is the very definition of diplomacy to out people with successful history deaing with Russia in charge of our diplomatic branch.
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I don't want our leaders emphasizing chumminess with bad state actors
There are 3 options.
1. Stay "chummy" with them, learning much and gaining influence over time.
2. Stay intractable. Learn nothing, expect violent conflict in the future.
3. Be adversarial, sanction and attack them, making the economy worse for the people of both countries.
Option 1 is the way to go, even with North Korea, Iran, Israel, Russia, Saudi etc. If America wants to be more prosperous, then they have to start setting the example for sane diplomacy. Obviously there is a lot more to this I can't hit typing on my phone.
anyhoo, JMO. Sorry if I offended.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:49 pm to MrCarton
You didn't offend, and I'm trying to draw a line between people who don't want us to engage with Russia because we object to various positions (be it domestic authoritarianism, using Islamic terror as a boogeyman, etc.) and those emphasizing personal relationships and alliance with Russia.
I think it makes total sense to promote personalities who can engage with Russia. But the possibility I object to is if favor toward Russia (not just willingness to engage) is some driving force behind these appointments.
In short, if this is breaking down artificial barriers put up between us and Russia for the purpose of constructive dialogue, fine by me. If this is some mutual admiration bullshite, a fisherman sees another fisherman from afar, Trump and Putin bromance stuff, I'm not a fan.
I think it makes total sense to promote personalities who can engage with Russia. But the possibility I object to is if favor toward Russia (not just willingness to engage) is some driving force behind these appointments.
In short, if this is breaking down artificial barriers put up between us and Russia for the purpose of constructive dialogue, fine by me. If this is some mutual admiration bullshite, a fisherman sees another fisherman from afar, Trump and Putin bromance stuff, I'm not a fan.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:52 pm to Pettifogger
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But the possibility I object to is if favor toward Russia (not just willingness to engage) is some driving force behind these appointments.
I agree with that. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing if that will happen. There are no indications that this guy will favor the Russian government over the US government, but there are indicators that he has gone to deal room with them successfully, meaning both sides got what they wanted.
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In short, if this is breaking down artificial barriers put up between us and Russia for the purpose of constructive dialogue, fine by me. If this is some mutual admiration bullshite, a fisherman sees another fisherman from afar, Trump and Putin bromance stuff, I'm not a fan.
fricking right on dude. Agree 100%
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:52 pm to Pettifogger
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Levin wants Neocon John Bolton
Sounds like Bolton might be his deputy.
God damnit. Bolton needs to go away.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:53 pm to joshnorris14
I know nothing about this guy?
Are the leftist posters having seizures over the pick?
If yes then I am good with the selection.
Are the leftist posters having seizures over the pick?
If yes then I am good with the selection.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:57 pm to joshnorris14
The winning...
still not tire of it.
still not tire of it.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:59 pm to udtiger
More winning
More melting
Greatest month of my life
More melting
Greatest month of my life
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:59 pm to joshnorris14
Haha, eat shite Romney.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:01 pm to russellvillehog
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Mark did not like this pick last night on his show
He did his usual crabby disapproval, but I got the feeling that he doesn't really know enough to judge . . . his tweet just now kind of left his opinion up in the air.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:03 pm to PoundFoolish
Other than the fact he is a Texas Longhorn Alumni and Former Bandmember 
.....I kinda like the choice.
Will be interesting how he does.
.....I kinda like the choice. Will be interesting how he does.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:08 pm to joshnorris14
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Rex Tillerson
Businessman from Texas
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:17 pm to theenemy
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Other than the fact he is a Texas Longhorn Alumni and Former Bandmember .....I kinda like the choice.
Will be interesting how he does
At this point, he's easily a better choice than the Clinton/Kerry shiteshow and I'm willing to place a large sum wager right now that he'll produce better results than the both of them combined.
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