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re: Article- 86% off strident conservatives think the poor "have it easy" in America

Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:55 am to
constant cough

= strident conservative (at least 86% of the time)
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
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quote:
the poor "have it easy" in America

[True] False

whew, that was easy.


The ones who don't work certainly have it easier than those who do.

LC
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:05 pm to
True story. Our church does a lot of work with the poor in our community. For families in serious need, we help pay people's electricity bills, gas bills, rent, put gas in their cars, give them food, etc.

A few months back a lady called our church asking for help paying her electricity bill. She told our minister that she had several kids and their electricity had been turned off. The minister told her to come to the church to meet with him (this is for a simple screening to make sure they're not druggies). He gave her the address and started to give her directions on how to get to the church. She said, "That's ok. I'll just punch the address into my GPS."

He said she rolled up 20 minutes later in a late model SUV, equipped with GPS. The minister, btw, drives a 13 year old Kia.

I lived in South America for 6 years. I've seen poverty. I wouldn't say the poor anywhere "have it easy." But the poor in America are sure better off than the poor in most other places.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:16 pm to
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So, is it hard or easy?


It's hard. Consider my plight:

I have to use scratched golf balls when crossing a lake.
I can only afford the cleaning lady every other week.
I only have one TV.
My cell phone can't take pictures.
I only have 20 songs on my ipod.
For summer vacation I spend a day in Shreveport.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:25 pm to
To suggest otherwise would show a complete ignorance of what real poverty looks like
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Compared to the impoverished in most other countries? Absolutely



Hell, the poor here have it easy compared to even the middle class of almost every other country.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:40 pm to
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The "poor" in America are obscenely rich on a worldwide scale.
yeah! they aren't farming dirt, so what do they mind?
Posted by LawLessTyGer
Bay of Ponchartrain
Member since Jan 2009
1256 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:43 pm to
They do compared to rest of world...poor in America gave electricity, running water, cable tv, and most have I phones...
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:47 pm to
I would go with living in a landfill like in Thailand or Bangladesh, but whatever.

Compared to most of the world our poor are doing alright. Biggest problem is those who are poor tend to remain poor for generations, but as TnM83 pointed out that is largely because our welfare system does nothing to discourage the choices that keep one poor. Welfare here actually tends to at least enable poor decision making, if not outright encourage it. All while writing the checks.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:48 pm to
Poverty will always exist in societies, just like a classroom will have A, B, C, etc students. Our "F" students have healthcare, food, and a place to live. So, yeah.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:52 pm to
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It's hard. Consider my plight:

I have to use scratched golf balls when crossing a lake.
I can only afford the cleaning lady every other week.
I only have one TV.
My cell phone can't take pictures.
I only have 20 songs on my ipod.
For summer vacation I spend a day in Shreveport.




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Posted by Zach
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:50 pm to
And...all donations are tax deductible.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Stage 1 for a year is as it is or a bit more assistance so someone can try and develop a skill someone would pay them for.

Stage 2 is you have to work for your benefits if you want to keep them doing whatever you get assigned to do. Like slave labor to earn your keep. Digging ditches, pouring concrete, road work, whatever is assigned you by the government to get your benefits.This stage would be indefinite. People could either: do it and earn their benefits, find something better (paying job), or move on to stage three.

Stage 3 is you don't do your assignment, you are on your own. No more help, no more moving back to stage 2, time to make it on your own or go ahead and die. No one owes you anything.



I think stage 3 should be:

Those poors should be processed into food for other poors.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35473 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

I agree that the poor have it relatively easy in America compared to the rest of the world, but "color" tv? I've seen people in third world countries running color TV's off of car batteries. At this point, if you can even find a B&W, it's probably a collectors item. I don't even think I've heard that term since the Dire Straights song in the 80's.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:14 pm to
I love when a poster drops a topic they know will elicit a certain response, throws in a link and high tails it..
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112423 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:36 pm to
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At this point, if you can even find a B&W, it's probably a collectors item.


I heard the term B/W TV just yesterday. Email from a friend in Texas:

Bob and Clara got married 50 years ago. They went out to dinner to celebrate.

Bob: "Ya know, Clara, when we first got married we lived in a shack, drove an old beat up car and watched TV on a 10 inch black and white. But every morning I woke up next to a beautiful 22 year old woman.

Now, we have a big house, 3 expensive cars and 3 big flat screen color TVs. But I wake up to an old ugly hag. Seems to me you haven't kept up your end of the bargain."

Clara: "Well, Bob, you find yourself a 22 year old woman. And I'll see to it that you end up in a shack, driving an old beat up car and watching TV on a 10 inch Black and White TV."
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Email from a friend in Texas


Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:12 pm to
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And...all donations are tax deductible.


Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5184 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:24 pm to
in comparison to tribes in the amazon that have not discovered the wheel yet, but don't ask for anything they cant get on their own

yes the poor in the U S have it easy.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45095 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:26 pm to
Absolutely true, poor in America has benefits and gets help that most of the worlds poor could only dream of.
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