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Are the markets foreshadowing a Biden victory? Some wealth management folks believe so.

Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:40 am
Watching Cuckvuto just now and a couple of Wall Street wealth management folks believe money is flowing out of the market in anticipation of a Biden victory. This makes sense certainly in the short term, higher corporate taxes, higher personal taxes, higher capital gains taxes......yeah, probably a good idea to have a substantial portion of your investments in cash or if you're a gambler short the broad markets.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:42 am to
Probably no more so than those who are standing pat but they receive no attention
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Are the markets foreshadowing a Biden victory? Some wealth management folks believe so. Probably no more so than those who are standing pat but they receive no attention


Yeah, I'm not too worried about a crash, it will suck but I have some cash in my dip account to throw in if the opportunity presents itself.
Posted by CavalryAg07
ChiTown
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:45 am to
Markets have changed up into after after every election.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:46 am to
The markets were foreshadowing a Clinton victory in 2016.

Didn't you people watch this movie 4 years ago?

I'm not saying Trump wins, he may not but the same entities and people doing all the foreshadowing then are the same ones doing it now.

Furthermore, they are the same people that have been wrong about just about everything over the last 4 years.

Take solace in that.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:46 am to
You realize we hit ATHs last month right?
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:46 am to
It's called uncertainty. We don't freaking know who our president will be.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:47 am to
Wall Street sees Biden as predictable and not volatile like Trump. They want stability and no drama. They don’t believe he will go full progressive and get all the tax increases. They don’t care about manufacturing anything in the US or restricting illegal immigration. They don’t care about flyover country, just making money for themselves.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:47 am to
Anyone who invests in biden is a fool
Posted by texn
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:48 am to
I was pitched by a bank’s wealth management team this week. They seemed to think a Biden victory is assured. Suffice it to say, they aren’t getting my $$$!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Are the markets foreshadowing a Biden victory? Some wealth management folks believe so. You realize we hit ATHs last month right?


I'm overall bullish simply because historically the market tends to rise. I'm much more bullish if Trump wins. I certainly see Biden's tax policies dragging the market down if he does what his handlers tell him to do. MAGA baw!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:59 am to
quote:

The markets were foreshadowing a Clinton victory in 2016. Didn't you people watch this movie 4 years ago? I'm not saying Trump wins, he may not but the same entities and people doing all the foreshadowing then are the same ones doing it now. Furthermore, they are the same people that have been wrong about just about everything over the last 4 years. Take solace in that.


Markets wanted Clinton because she was their girl, literally bought and paid for, and you're right, Hilldawg was a known Wall Street groveler and Trump was the unknown. It's flipped to a degree and Wall Street knows Trump's policies are pro growth for America but not necessarily good for China. Do you believe the Wall Street types would take higher taxes if it means they can have their China back? No need to answer, of course Wall Street prefers China's market access over Trump's America First economic policies.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:21 am to
Probably some protecting themselves just in case Biden wins and expect a big drop in the market should that happen.
Posted by SalE
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:23 am to
Those guys are famous for saying one thing and then playing the other side of the trade.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Watching Cuckvuto just now and a couple of Wall Street wealth management


Lol
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:34 am to
They don't know anymore than you do.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:36 am to
Nah, market has been choppy. More cash allows institutions to pounce once direction is established.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:43 am to
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Wall Street sees Biden as predictable and not volatile like Trump. They want stability and no drama. They don’t believe he will go full progressive and get all the tax increases. They don’t care about manufacturing anything in the US or restricting illegal immigration. They don’t care about flyover country, just making money for themselves.


The market won’t like it if there appears to be a month long process of figuring out the election. If there is a clear winner the market won’t care much. No serious financial advisor ever suggests cash as a safer and better long term position. Time in the market is better than trying to time the market.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:45 am to
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They don't know anymore than you do.



Nobody knows but it sure is fun arguing with people who think they do.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46179 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:51 am to
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The market won’t like it if there appears to be a month long process of figuring out the election. If there is a clear winner the market won’t care much. No serious financial advisor ever suggests cash as a safer and better long term position. Time in the market is better than trying to time the market.


Agree, I'm running 50/50. If the election is undecided and drawn out I'll stay put, if Trump landslides I'll start buying back into a 70-80/30-20 mix, if Biden wins I'll have to look at where his anti America policies are forcing investors. If Biden wins Silicon Valley is a sure winner and whatever companies are wrapped up in AOC's New Green ripoff are going to do well too. If Trump wins I'm back full steam into O&G.
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