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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:23 am to Big dub
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So basically what they are saying is I should pay more in insurance even though I have not been to the doctor in 2 years because it helps people who choose not to work?
Check yo privilege and think of those who are unable to develop the will to be productive members of society.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:26 am to DawgsLife
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And that would be different how? Only now we are paying in MUCH higher premiums.
Honest questions.
1. Do you pay for your own health insurance or does you job or parents?
2. If you pay for your own, do you get subsidies?
3. If you are completely out of pocket, how much has your premiums gone up in the last 3-4 years?
Parents? frick off or read my post count or years posting.
We went with my wife's employer. She works for an international company. Therefore I believe she was allowed more options. Or company was. We got BCBS of Illinois. We're in Texas. It was half of the premium I was paying through an employer. It has slowly over 4 years gone up to what we were paying before the switch.
If her job tried to be a hard arse about it they could drop me as I can get my own plan. This should be illegal. Offer "family plans" or don't. In healthcare you have people PURPOSELY taking part time jobs so the spouse has to carry. That is horseshite. Couple that with some hospitals offering ONLY their own insurance product (memorial Herman) which reeks of company store and should be illegal.
If you can say you have great insurance and it is affordable, you are a unicorn.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:27 am to the808bass
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Turns out free care means people use free care.
There is no free care.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:27 am to NC_Tigah
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The counties with no remaining ACA access don't lie.
Which counties are those? The situation in Tennessee was resolved.
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The entire state of Iowa doesn't lie.
Might want to do some investigating as to what's up in Iowa - it's hardly predictive of what you think it is.
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I don't lie
Oh, you don't understand that 'death spiral' has a meaning then? Weird, you really should know that by now.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:29 am to NC_Tigah
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As obamacare cost escalation exceeds median healthcare cost inflation by an average of 3.8X or 380% (depending on the state, by as much as 1780%)
A) Link?
B) So insurers drastically underpriced their premiums, hoping to absorb a loss as they acquired a wider customer base, and Republicans stripping out some of the programs to cover these losses has hurt them more than expected? Shocked!
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:32 am to BeeFense5
Trump and Ryan want to remove the ACA 3.8% tax on the richest 4% of Americans.
That should take a burden off the middle class and reduce our deficit shouldn't it shite for brains.
That should take a burden off the middle class and reduce our deficit shouldn't it shite for brains.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:33 am to Dawgfanman
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Self Perceived health
indeed. It's always funny when someone survey beneficiaries and finds "evidence" of popularity. Silly.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:00 am to BamaAtl
quote:It's been linked many times.
As obamacare cost escalation exceeds median healthcare cost inflation by an average of 3.8X or 380% (depending on the state, by as much as 1780%)
A) Link?
Rise in annual cost of HC = 6.5%
Arizona Obamacare increase = 116%
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:00 am to Dawgfanman
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Self Perceived health, per the article
Which have been well-correlated to actual outcomes.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:01 am to NC_Tigah
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It's been linked many times.
Then you should have no problem providing one that shows an average 3.8X (and as much as 1780%) growth in 'obamacare cost escalation' - I'll even let you define that poorly-conceived term - vs median healthcare cost escalation.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:03 am to BamaAtl
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self-reported
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:11 am to BamaAtl
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Which have been well-correlated to actual outcomes.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:16 am to BamaAtl
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23-percentage-point increase in “excellent” self-reported health.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:19 am to BamaAtl
quote:Obamacare policies are up an average of 25% according to Forbes. Not worth my time linking it for you as you'll ask for the same thing again next week. Look it up yourself. Maybe that way you'll remember it.
that shows an average 3.8X
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:20 am to NC_Tigah
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Not worth my time linking it for you
At least you admit when you lack an actual source to your lies.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:22 am to BamaAtl
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At least you admit when you lack an actual source to your lies.
I'm still waiting on two links from you.
Also, why no sweet charts in the OP?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:22 am to PygmalionEffect
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Trump and Ryan want to remove the ACA 3.8% tax on the richest 4% of Americans.
Sounds like you need to get off your arse and aspire to be that 4%, no?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:25 am to BamaAtl
quote:Odd that the health insurance companies it needs to lose fantastic amounts of money in order to work aren't interested in doing so isn't it?
This is a lie and you -should- know better.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:26 am to BeeFense5
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......At the expense of the middle class
took one post to get it right
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