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re: ACA Improved Care and Health Among Low-Income Adults

Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140407 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:29 am to
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Sounds like you need to get off your arse and aspire to be that 4%, no?


Are you asking a liberal to lead by example, create charities and actually walk the walk instead of waiting for mommy government to do it?

You want them to move to smaller houses in lesser neighborhoods? Send their kids to public schools in that neighborhood? Forgo the ski trip or trip to the islands or Europe? Drive a used small American made car?

WTF is wrong with you?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:30 am to
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Odd that the health insurance companies it needs to lose fantastic amounts of money in order to work aren't interested in doing so isn't it?


Needs to lose? Not really.

Likely to lose in the first few years as the brand new markets stabilized, but now undercut by Republicans actively sabotaging the law? Yep.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140407 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:31 am to
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Likely to lose in the first few years as the brand new markets stabilized


Yeah, I think with a few more 25% average increases the market will indeed stabilize.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:31 am to
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Likely to lose in the first few years as the brand new markets stabilized, but now undercut by Republicans actively sabotaging the law?
You have no gag reflex.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:32 am to
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I think with a few more 25% average increases the market will indeed stabilize.


That's how it works when one party is actively sabotaging the law. Costs go up.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123902 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:33 am to
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At least you admit when you lack an actual source to your lies.
quote:

are up an average of 25% according to Forbes
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56486 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:36 am to
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That's how it works when one party is actively sabotaging the law. Costs go up.



First of all, the rate increases due to Obamacare are well documented. It cannot be argued.

2nd of all, the politics of two parties almost makes you consider whether a national healthcare initiative was a good idea, doesn't it? It's a disaster. You want to blame it on Republicans because you are dishonest and need a scapegoat, but at least you agree it's a disaster.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:40 am to
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but now undercut by Republicans actively sabotaging the law?


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That's how it works when one party is actively sabotaging the law.

Fancy new talking point, eh?
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140407 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:41 am to
Ohh, please tell me how politicians affected claims.

I'd love to hear that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71629 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:42 am to
Your interest is the redistribution of wealth, from the pockets of insurance companies to your own. Stop pretending that you have other interests in the continuation of the ACA.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:44 am to
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Ohh, please tell me how politicians affected claims.

I'd love to hear that.


Not so much claims as backstops against an excess of claims in the first few years.

Surely you know what I'm talking about, we've had this talk before.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:44 am to
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NC_Tigah


Go on, provide a link proving your assertion. Any time now.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:47 am to
Why are middle and upper class people obligated to subsidize the healthcare of poor people?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123902 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:53 am to
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Go on, provide a link proving your assertion. Any time now.
Sigh . . .
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:02 pm to
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NC_Tigah


Pssst...you were looking for something like this

Indiana down -4%? Pretty awesome, ACA!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140407 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Not so much claims as backstops against an excess of claims in the first few years.


But I thought ACA was going to make health care affordable. It's in the name of the bill. What happened? It didn't lower claims costs.

Weird.

I do admit, if liberals had their way, we could just run to Kinkos and get enough money to make this the best bill ever.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140407 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:12 pm to
Minnesota up +55%? Pretty awesome, ACA!

This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43336 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Your interest is the redistribution of wealth, from the pockets of insurance companies to your own. Stop pretending that you have other interests in the continuation of the ACA.


This. BamaAtl is just your typical proggy who wants to enrich themselves off of other people's money through government fiat.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:15 pm to
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What happened? It didn't lower claims costs.


It lowered readmissions and HACs, and it's just getting started.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:21 pm to
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and it's just getting started.
Odramacre is so freaking awesome it's getting better everyday, despite evil insurers and Rs!

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