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re: ACA Improved Care and Health Among Low-Income Adults
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:24 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:24 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
It lowered readmissions and HACs,
Link?
How much money do you think you'll need to steal to stabilize it and how much longer will it take?
Don't give me artificial "backstops". That's horseshite. Claims are claims. You can't hide from them no matter how or when you fill up the bucket. That bucket has to be dumped out.
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:39 pm to BamaAtl
quote:No. I'd not represent a -3% in Indiana as indicative of average obamacare performance.
Pssst...you were looking for something like this
Indiana down -4%? Pretty awesome, ACA!
No more than I'd represent AZ, or OK as indicative.
Then again, I attempt to be truthful in these threads. So we're quite different in that regard.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:39 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
B) So insurers drastically underpriced their premiums, hoping to absorb a loss as they acquired a wider customer base, and Republicans stripping out some of the programs to cover these losses has hurt them more than expected? Shocked!
I thought the insurance companies were gouging the public and that is the reason the government had to step in and put limits on them.....you know, to protect the public.
Now you are saying the insurance companies underpriced their policies?
Oh. And before ACA the government didn't have to step in and cover losses.
Oh. And you do realize that insurance comapnies are pulling out of markets left and right because of said losses, right? And they have been pulling out of markets since the beginning of ObamaCare....NOT just the last year or so as you seem to be insinuating.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:58 pm to BamaAtl
quote:That must be why insurers are bailing. They don't want to make money.
Likely to lose in the first few years as the brand new markets stabilized,
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:00 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
It lowered readmission
pre-ACA the "23 hour,59 minute" admission wasn't "a thing". 
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:04 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
The situation in Tennessee was resolved.
Uh.... it was?
Knoxville went from having a choice of 1 carrier to having a choice of zero carriers to MAYBE having a choice of 1 carrier who reserves the right to charge wildly higher premiums than anyone else via a special exemption and to limit the number of people they accept in a given year. That's "resolved"?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:11 pm to SSpaniel
quote:
Uh.... it was?
Knoxville went from having a choice of 1 carrier to having a choice of zero carriers to MAYBE having a choice of 1 carrier who reserves the right to charge wildly higher premiums
quote:
Humana announced this year that they’d be leaving the markets altogether next year. That means there are parts of Tennessee that will have no insurance options unless another insurer decides to enter.
LINK
quote:
Anthem, which operates in 14 states, is getting nervous, an industry analyst told Bloomberg News this week. Its departure would be a much bigger problem. According to an analysis of government data by Katherine Hempstead at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, Anthem is currently the only insurance carrier in nearly 300 counties, serving about a quarter of a million people.
LINK
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:20 pm to NC_Tigah
Don't post that. It's nothing but anecdotal stories and such that don't tell the real story.
Take BamaAtl's word for it. The ACA works. For EVERYONE. Trust her. It works. Here... look at this shiny graph full of cherrypicked data prepared by the completely neutral group SIGNUPFORTHEACANOW.COM. Had she been on the Titanic, she'd be swearing up and down that they were all OK, still sailing toward America as the ship was breaking in two and only needed some tweaking and minor repairs to remain afloat.
Take BamaAtl's word for it. The ACA works. For EVERYONE. Trust her. It works. Here... look at this shiny graph full of cherrypicked data prepared by the completely neutral group SIGNUPFORTHEACANOW.COM. Had she been on the Titanic, she'd be swearing up and down that they were all OK, still sailing toward America as the ship was breaking in two and only needed some tweaking and minor repairs to remain afloat.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:26 pm to BamaAtl
quote:You just confirmed what I said, then denied it as true at the same time.
Needs to lose? Not really.
Likely to lose in the first few years as the brand new markets stabilized,
Morons like you will never understand that someone has to pay the bill.
They are saying it's not going to be them. Which they can do.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:42 pm to roadGator
quote:
Link?
Readmissions
HACs
Unlike you guys (looking at you, NC!) I'm always happy to post the source of any factual assertion I make.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:42 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
I attempt to be truthful in these threads.
Not when you claim the ACA is in a death spiral - if that's you being truthful, then you either don't know what the term means or don't know the current state of the ACA.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:00 pm to Big dub
That is exactly what he wants. He will say otherwise, but they want a bunch of freebies for the Poors to buy their vote.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:09 pm to BamaAtl
Has the average ACA increase been higher or lower year over year since inception?
How much of other people's money do you estimate it will take to stabilize it after this 25%?
How much of other people's money do you estimate it will take to stabilize it after this 25%?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:14 pm to BamaAtl
Oh great, those that didnt have insurance and dont contribute go to the Dr for free on all their leisure time.
While those that contribute pay two to four times a much for a benefit that has deductibles as high as giraffe pussy.
So they forego medical care that they used to get because they are broke. Then they get sick and die, leaving even fewer producers to pay for those that dont work, cant work, or care enough to try.
While those that contribute pay two to four times a much for a benefit that has deductibles as high as giraffe pussy.
So they forego medical care that they used to get because they are broke. Then they get sick and die, leaving even fewer producers to pay for those that dont work, cant work, or care enough to try.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:15 pm to Big dub
quote:
So basically what they are saying is I should pay more in insurance even though I have not been to the doctor in 2 years because it helps people who choose not to work?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:27 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:27 pm to BamaAtl
Hasnt life expectency dropped?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:31 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Not when you claim the ACA is in a death spiral
Of course it is.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:21 pm to BamaAtl
Cliff Notes:
People who get handouts love their free shite.
People who have to pay for it, not so much.
People who get handouts love their free shite.
People who have to pay for it, not so much.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Hasnt life expectency dropped?
Yes. For the first time since 1993. Weird. Right?
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