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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:39 pm to
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Cam did say that. But his offense flourished with a guy that wasn't very mobile in Mettenberger and drop back guy.


Then why was Cam able to make Antwaan Randle El a good quarterback at Indiana?

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Randle El: He saw it through film. I obviously talked to Coach Cam Cameron, who was the head coach of the Indiana football team at the time. I talked to him about me wanting to have the opportunity to play both sports in college and coach Knight was cool with it, so I said “Alright, let’s do it.”


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Randle El Indiana Highlights

Or maybe it was Cam grooming a young Drew Brees with the Chargers who came into the NFL as dual threat passer in Purdue's air raid offense.

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You mentioned in your book that Cam Cameron was one of the few guys in the organization that believed in you all along. What did he mean to your career?

“He was huge. Cam was huge in my career. I was with him for four years. He was the offensive coordinator while I was in San Diego for those last four years.

That was a time in my career where during that stretch I got benched three or four times, they ended up drafting Philip Rivers. Cam was pretty much the one who broke the news to me. My postseason exit meeting with him after the ’03 season I went in his office, shut the door and (he said) I’m just telling you they’re either going to go out and get a free agent veteran quarterback to come in here or they’re going to draft a rookie high to compete with you. Just get ready for that. I feel like he was always very honest with me. He always did things to try to get the best out of me. There was a time or two where we would butt heads, but I think that was all part of the process of him trying to mold me into the type of quarterback he knew I could be, the type of person he knew I could be, leader and I appreciate him for that.

I love the man. I think he’s a great coach and obviously I had a lot of great years with him.”


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Purdue leader in career rushing yards among quarterbacks (900).



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Like I said, you don't have a clue about LSU's offense, it's complexity or what Cam Cameron likes or what he is capable of as a developer of quarterbacks.
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 9:41 pm
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:43 pm to
I must not but seemingly every defense we play does
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:47 pm to
Yeah, they sure did in 2013 when had an experienced QB under center.
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:53 pm to
Yep right person in right system.

Pocket passer in our system equals great numbers

Take a look at the bowl game with the exact same personnel how our O performed with the dual threat guy
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:57 pm to
Then explain to me how both Antwaan Randle El & Drew Brees were able to operate Cam Cameron's offense so well as dual threats?
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:58 pm to
Purdue and Indiana that's how
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 9:59 pm to
How much was Purdue in the I while Brees was there.

And randle el?
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:00 pm to
The offense we run at LSU with Cam is not what he ran at Indiana or Purdue.
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:05 pm to
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Looks nothing like LSU offense does it
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:07 pm to
Do you know what dual-threat means?
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:09 pm to
Yes it is the same damn offense Cam ran at Indiana. Cam didn't coach Brees at Purdue, he coached him with the Chargers. Brees credits his entire pro development to Cam Cameron because he helped Drew develop more in the cerebral aspect of quarterbacking. It's a concept you can't seem to grasp along with a bunch of other so called fans. The reason the offense struggled last year was because of lack of experience. It had nothing to do with offensive philosophy or coaching. You can't ask players to do more when they are having struggles with what was already on their plate. That's coaching 101.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Jennings attended Marietta High School in Marietta, Georgia. He was ranked by Rivals.com as a four-star recruit and the sixth best dual-threat quarterback in his class.[1] Jennings committe


It depends what you look at, some sites listed him pro style.
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:16 pm to
you give me a hall of fame qb which is clearly in the minority and one of the best athletes in college football history as examples.

So now he has a season under his belt and if the offense is still in the back half of the country what say you.

Questioning my fan hood please I rep LSU in bama/auburn/Uga country proudly. "So called" fans don't watch every game win or lose and still rep LSU no matter what

Me giving my opinion makes me no less of a fan
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:17 pm to
Link?
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 10:47 pm to
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you give me a hall of fame qb which is clearly in the minority and one of the best athletes in college football history as examples.


Lol You really must be 15 or extremely slow. The Brees that Cam had was nowhere near what he is now. Brees was benched early in career several times for Doug Flutie & Philip Rivers was eventually drafted to be the future. The Chargers GM at the time A.J. Smith was a dumbass, who failed to see Brees steadily trending in the right direction thanks to Cam & wanted him out San Diego. Sound familiar? Lack of patience is a bitch. You didn't answer why Cam was able to get what he did out of Randle El either?
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:30 pm to
Cameron returned to his alma mater to serve as the head coach for the Indiana University Hoosiers in 1997. In five seasons he achieved a record of 18-37. Cameron brought an explosive offense to Indiana with highly effective offensive players such as Antwaan Randle El. Indiana averaged 23.6 points per game under Cameron's guidance. In fact, Randle El became the first player in NCAA Division I history to pass for 40 career touchdowns and score 40 career rushing touchdowns. He finished his college career as fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for each of four consecutive years.[4]

Although Cameron's Indiana teams won less than one-third of their games, Indiana was recognized by the American Football Coaches Association for its exemplary football graduation rates in each of Cameron's final four seasons. Despite Randle El's record setting achievements as a QB, Cameron inexplicably decided to move Randle El to wide receiver in 2001, a decision that likely cost Indiana a winning record and a bowl game. He was fired after the 2001 season.
Antwaan Randle El Indiana Stats

His Passing Att/Cmpl/Yds/Rating are spot on with Jennings: Passing TDs 6, 17, 10, 9 over 4 yrs.
Rushing TDs 10, 13, 13, 8

This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted by jledet
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:51 am to
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Although Cameron's Indiana teams won less than one-third of their games, Indiana was recognized by the American Football Coaches Association for its exemplary football graduation rates in each of Cameron's final four seasons. Despite Randle El's record setting achievements as a QB, Cameron inexplicably decided to move Randle El to wide receiver in 2001, a decision that likely cost Indiana a winning record and a bowl game. He was fired after the 2001 season.


No doubt was one of the best athletes in college football history but why move him to wide out? Sure he is better suited for that why because in Cam's system which is an NFL system he knew he had a better shot a wide out.

If cam took arguably the best dual threat qb in college football history and moved him from under center what does that tell you
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