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re: Please help me settle an argument about GTAV with my teenager

Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:37 pm to
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I turned out okay

Debatable
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:38 pm to
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My kid is a 15 year old gamer. I've allowed M rated games such as Call of Duty, Far Cry 4, and Dying Light. I've always been against GTA because you get points for killing cops and civilians. He says GTAV is not as bad as the previous games. I have no idea but I'm certain this board can help steer me right.


You think your kid's going to turn into a cop killer or murderer if he plays GTAV?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:46 pm to
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You think your kid's going to turn into a cop killer or murderer if he plays GTAV?


That's not really the issue here.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:08 pm to
You should do what my mom did, keep him too busy doing house work, yard work, hell even real work at that age. Then in his precious free time, you can bet he will not want to spend it playing games in his room. I learned two lessons from that. 1st I learned the value of hard work. 2nd I learned if I got out of the house and hung out with friends, I couldn't get any more chores from my mom. My mom either got peace and quiet or she got a clean house, win-win
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:54 pm to
She should keep doing what she has done for the last 15 years
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:56 pm to
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The new GTA isn't even in the same stratosphere as Vice City. If the shite going on in this game isn't anything new to your 15 year old you are doing something VERY wrong.


In Vice City, you could beat down hookers with golf clubs until they were a bloody mess, torch entire sidewalks full of people with flame throwers, and snipe the heads off of police officers.

I love how we treat GTA V as so much more violent because it has more polygons

Posted by Doldil
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:57 pm to
I feel like this is appropriate here...
Old people play GTA V

what happens when you give a bunch of old people a controller and GTA V? fun, apparently
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:02 pm to
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I love how we treat GTA V as so much more violent because it has more polygons


I think the game is a little more twisted. As I mentioned previously, Trevor brings a whole new level of maturity to the game IMO.
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:05 pm to
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In Vice City, you could beat down hookers with golf clubs until they were a bloody mess, torch entire sidewalks full of people with flame throwers, and snipe the heads off of police officers.

I love how we treat GTA V as so much more violent because it has more polygons


Grand Theft Auto Vice City and Grand Theft Auto V are night and day.

Posted by DieDaily
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:12 pm to
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I love how we treat GTA V as so much more violent because it has more polygons
A more detailed description of a violent act, such as in an article or a novel, elicits a stronger response from a reader. Why are video games any different? GTA V portrays violence and sex (among other things) with more detail than Vice City.

We're talking cartoon-esque graphics versus approaching photo-realism.



And if there is a GTA 6, 7, 8, etc. (and I'm sure there will be as long as they continue to sell) we'll probably find the previous release tamer than the most recent.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:19 pm to
Yeah realism is exactly what makes it so bad. Not even necessarily the graphics. You could leave everything else the same but make the story fantastical and cartoonish instead of seedy and realistic, and it would be way less disturbing IMO
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:20 pm to
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C'mon The kid is 15. Let him play some GTA. I was 13 (I think) when Vice City came out. My friends and I played the crap out of that game when it came out.
The only time I ever got to play Vice City was at a friend's house. To this day I've never owned a GTA. I wanted to play them when I was younger, but I guess I grew out of it. I had Saints Row 2 but that's about it in terms of sandbox shoot 'em up genre.

I agree with the majority in this thread. He'll live if he doesn't get to own this game. Will he eventually play it at a friend's house? Sure. But there's a huge difference in playing something alone in your room than with a group of friends. The mindset is totally different. Just because he'll play it elsewhere doesn't mean you make it readily available for him to access at any time.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:23 pm to
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You could leave everything else the same but make the story fantastical and cartoonish instead of seedy and realistic, and it would be way less disturbing IMO
This is exactly why Saints Row isn't held in the same light as GTA. It's so off the wall and whacky that you don't take it seriously. You're doing the same thing, torching people, shooting cops, running people over, running gangs, etc. But because it's so out of the loop it's just entertainment.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:41 pm to
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I'm glad I only have a 3 month old right now


Same. I can already tell mine is going to be a fun one.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:43 pm to
Kid has probably already watched the entire game on youtube. Let him play it.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:47 pm to
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A more detailed description of a violent act, such as in an article or a novel, elicits a stronger response from a reader.


In 2003, Vice City was a good looking game. This exact discussion was going on 12 years ago. Replace Vice City with GTA 2.

I've almost played all the way through GTA V and I honestly didn't see much worse in it than in an r-rated movie and movies like the Kill Bill franchise and games like Postal 2 were a lot more offensive to me.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:52 pm to
We should break this down to 2 threads, one for parents and one for others who have failed at making other human beings.

No 15 year should be allowed to play this game by their parents. If they find another way to play it, that is what teenagers do. They will find ways to drink, have sex or do drugs; but parents should never allow or empower their kids to do those items.

The millennials are currently a waste of a generation, there is no reason to help them any further.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:59 pm to
Jesus he is 15. I played GTA 3 when I was 11 or 12
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:00 pm to
IMO, there is a difference to watching a movie and actually causing the actions within a game. You are a spectator to a movie and you see it as that. You do not control the actions, you observe them.

In a game like GTA V, you decide to pick up the prostitute, torture humans, take hitch hikers to cannibals, do meth, run over random people in the way. You control the debauchery, which will desensitize you to some of those actions.

I enjoyed the game, but it is not a game for a 15 year old.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:04 pm to
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The millennials are currently a waste of a generation
Preach. I don't trust anyone that wears a snap-back backwards that isn't working construction and wears jeans that would make me sore.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 3:05 pm
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