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re: What is so great about Phish and The Grateful Dead

Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:18 pm to
Go on, show us where Gordo touched you.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:20 pm to
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They certainly don't suck, but even smoking weed and doing shrooms they wouldn't do it for me. Different strokes...



I can enjoy their music without drugs. shite like Shpongle is what requires drugs.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:33 pm to
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The Dead was an extremely talented group of musicians and is one of the GOAT bands of all time.

Phish is an average at best group of jerkoffs who suck at everything.


A Grateful Dead concert was unlike anything else I have ever seen. No other band even remotely compares. The recorded music does it no justice. It truly was an amazing live experience.

Phish just sucks. The fans are a bunch of dorks bouncing around the rooom to stupid lyrics that make no sense. Dead wannabes without the talent and soul.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:59 pm to
Oh stfu
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:01 pm to
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Dead wannabes without the talent and soul.


If you really think this then you are a fricking idiot
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:02 pm to
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The Dead was an extremely talented group of musicians and is one of the GOAT bands of all time.

Phish is an average at best group of jerkoffs who suck at everything.



Why is Trey playing with the Dead for their last ever shows?

You are such a pussy.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Dead wannabes without the talent and soul.
this is such a fricking retarded line of thought.

whoever says this obviously doesn't know much about phish.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:13 pm to
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Why is Trey playing with the Dead for their last ever shows?
As a dyed-in-the-wool Deadhead, I was shocked, shocked to see that Phish’s Trey Anastasio would be playing the 50th celebration shows in Chicago.

Here are ten reasons why this is the worst thing to ever happen:

10. TREY DOESN’T SOUND LIKE JERRY Every time I hear Trey Anastasio playing guitar I know instantly, “That’s Trey Anastasio.” Instead of doing it how Jerry would, it seems that Anastasio – selfishly – went and developed a unique style all his own. Blech.

9. PHISH FANS WILL RUIN IT Because of Trey now “those people” will be there: The smelly, drugged-out Phisheads. Us Deadheads, on the other hand, have the alluring smell of patchouli oil and freshly burned sage, and we only get high on MUSIC (which we occasionally enhance with NATURAL things like marijuana…occasionally mushrooms… but more the body high kind than visual…I would never seek out nitrous, but I won’t say no if I see it…acid ONLY if it’s a weekend…or very good acid…I’d do some MDMA if it’s pure…or cheap… I WILL NOT MESS WITH COCAINE. Why, you got some? Maybe just a bump at set break.)

8. AMATEUR DUDE Trey doesn’t have the experience. Jerry was 53 when he passed away. Trey is only 50.

7. __________ WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER It is so obvious that ________ is the only one capable of reaching across time and space and heaven and earth to play what Jerry would have played.

6. PHISH SONGS SUCK I’m not sure why this will affect Grateful Dead songs, but it will.

5. TREY IS ALL ABOUT GIMMICKS The Whammy loops, the octave dividers, etc. are so cheesy. If he wants to fill Jerry’s shoes he needs to add more subtle effects, like an auto-wah, or a Roland GK-2 hexaphonic guitar synthesizer pickup which Jerry used to flawlessly simulate the sound of saxophones and woodwinds on the guitar.

4. TREY CAN’T SING Jerry Garcia was nothing if not a precision singer, who never used cheap tricks like personality and heart that would have obscured his notoriously consistent singing.

3. TREY DOESN’T “GET” THE DEAD What Phish does is so silly. I’d like to see Trey step up and make some REAL music, like composing a rock opera about turtles who run a train station.

2. BECAUSE JERRY What would Jerry think of this decision? I have listened to the Dead enough to know what Jerry’s closest friends and bandmates apparently do not: If he saw this Trey guy come in and disrespect the Dead by taking their music and interpreting it in a new way, Jerry would surely go into a frenzied rage. Tables would likely be overturned and chairs would be thrown through windows. The Jer Bear I know would never be sitting back, listening along and grinning ear to ear about it.

1. THE FANS SHOULD DECIDE Who picked Trey anyway? Sigh…I wish that Phil, Bobby, Billy and Mickey – the guys who were there from the beginning and are the only ones who truly understand its meaning – would agree that the fans are the ones who should make this decision. The fans are the only people who know best which musicians the surviving members should have with them at the epic finale to the lengthy, peculiar excursion that is the Grateful Dead.

I think the case is pretty clear. In a sign of solidarity, we should boycott this event. If you have a ticket, please, for the love of God, give it to me. I will dispose of it for you.
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:30 pm to
Nor do I. Never did. I wish I COULD get it so I would know.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:59 pm to
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Nor do I. Never did. I wish I COULD get it so I would know.


Same here. I try, even listened to American Beauty last weekend to give it another shot and it's just not my kind of music.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:08 pm to
I was pretty bored at the one Dead concert I went to, and I was on acid. Their music just never did much for me, save for a few songs.


I've had a blast at every Phish show I've been to except one(Atlanta, summer 2000)


Different strokes. Won't begrudge the Dead because I didn't care for them. They obviously had a great thing going, it just never appealed to me.
Posted by TigerRad
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:46 pm to
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I've had a blast at every Phish show I've been to except one(Atlanta, summer 2000)



Dat Tweezer doe. 6.24.00 right? I thought that was a great one
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:51 pm to
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I was pretty bored at the one Dead concert I went to, and I was on acid. Their music just never did much for me, save for a few songs.


Assume this was early to mid-90's show? From about 92-95 it was downhill and a lot of the shows were not very good. There were some bad ones at the end. They went a couple of years too long......
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Fab4Freddy
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Assume this was early to mid-90's show? From about 92-95 it was downhill and a lot of the shows were not very good. There were some bad ones at the end. They went a couple of years too long......


anything past 7/23/90 was really bad- and I saw a lot of them. brent > vince and Brent > Vince with bruce hornsby.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:18 pm to
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anything past 7/23/90 was really bad- and I saw a lot of them. brent > vince and Brent > Vince with bruce hornsby


The vast majority of my touring career was before 7/23/90 so I get why anyone who saw them afterwards may not have been impressed. I saw a few shows with Hornsby that were pretty good in 91-92 (RFK;Hampton, Cap Center), afterwards I stopped going (time to grow up). The next time i saw them was Spring Tour of '95 in Memphis and Birmingham and they were not good at all, with possibly the exception of the second night in the 'Ham.

They should have hung it up for awhile after Mydland died, taken a break from touring and let the madness that followed them die down
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Fab4Freddy
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:47 pm to
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They should have hung it up for awhile after Mydland died, taken a break from touring and let the madness that followed them die down


the fat man would probably still be with us too...

your touring sounds about like mine. many until 90- decent amount in 1991, but I mostly stayed away after that- also due to growing up. 95 bham was my swansong, and I am keeping it like that- I am not dealing with Chi-town.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:15 pm to
Most of 1990 was pretty damn good. I am partial to PigPen and the bluesy sound, therefore, I like '68-'71 GD better than any other Dead era.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:19 pm to
My favorite is 69-70, 74, 78, 88-90. I love the warm and fuzzy Jerry tone of 69 best.
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