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re: Cam Cameron On The Hot Seat?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to LSUPRS
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:57 pm to LSUPRS
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If this is true why would a grown man stay? I call BS
I would tend to agree with your assessment of this situation...I do believe that the general public really doesn't have a clue to just how bad our QB situation was/is on this team. Brings new terms to "offensive" play...
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:00 pm to DeltaDoc
Whop bobalubop a whop bamboo
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:15 pm to cheesesteak501
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He's been here for 2 years and one of those years produced a 3,000 yd passer, 1000 yd rusher and 2 1,000 yard receivers.
And a quarterback selected and trained by another school
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:17 pm to Mulat
I guess Cam got the reputation as one of the best NFL QB gurus by accident
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:22 pm to fierysnowman
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I guess Cam got the reputation as one of the best NFL QB gurus by accident
No I think he is good. I am just saying he was last on the line for Mett. Sure he helped, no doubt, but he had nothing to do with selecting him from HS, nor anything to do with his training a UGA nor anything to do with his winning the Natty in Junior College, in other words, he had a product already functioning.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:24 pm to fierysnowman
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I guess Cam got the reputation as one of the best NFL QB gurus by accident
Link?
He was fired mid-season in his last NFL job and won what, one game as a head coach?
Also of note, the same year he was fired from Baltimore, they immediately turned the offense around and went on to win the Super Bowl.
All I am saying is that I don't think Cam is above reproach. Moreover, with another season like the one we just finished on the offensive side of the ball, I think it would be illogical not to question whether he is up to the task.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:35 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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I think you will be surprised at how much better the offense will be this year.
the offense this past year suffered from more than poor QB play. the OL started our pretty bad; at best inconsistent with both run blocking and pass blocking assignments. losing 2 guys in the arky game was to much to bear also.
bad OL play affects the QB play also. AJ looked a lot better against a&m and against notre dame; of course our defense almost cost us the former and did cost us the later game.
I believe next year AJ will be serviceable in running the team if our OL keeps improving and I believe it will now that grimes has had some time to coach his scheme. there is a limit to AJ's passing skills and everyone knows that but he seems to be able to execute screens and passes to tight ends now. if he keeps his job I think we improve to 10 wins.
that being said, AJ just isn't going to win us games with his arm and an arm is needed to be real successful. BH has an opportunity to step up and win this job. if he is not capable of doing that this year the window may close for him.
I think Cam is a very good OC, overall. he probably had to make the adjustment back to college as the pros are a lot easier to coach; they are the crem a la crem.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:41 pm to LSU GrandDad
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he probably had to make the adjustment back to college as the pros are a lot easier to coach; they are the crem a la crem.
Agree. But why he didn't do it last season? He has been coaching college before in his long career
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:46 pm to macanLSU
He will be fired if he doesn't produce.
You can bank on it.
You can bank on it.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:46 pm to Tiger Forever
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Les picks out the plays that are going to be run every game. Cam has to call those plays - his hands are tied
It's true. Cam only decides when to call them. Hence the consecutive passes to finish the game vs Bama. Only pass plays were left on the play sheet since it went to OT. Cam couldn't run the ball anymore that game.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:46 pm to macanLSU
Please teach Harris how to be a college QB Cam. 
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:17 pm to fierysnowman
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I guess Cam got the reputation as one of the best NFL QB gurus by accident
It's absolutely laughable how our fanbase so easily blames the OC for our anemic offenses. First it was Crowton, then Kragthorpe, now Cameron. Wake up guys, three offensive coordinators and one offense and head coach.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:37 pm to Tiger Forever
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Les picks out the plays that are going to be run every game. Cam has to call those plays - his hands are tied.
This is so ignorant.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:52 pm to JaxTiger10
Cam's going to do a lot better next season. Cam/Miles came to a realization very late in the season that you can't run an offense that is so predictable. They thought that as long as you execute properly it doesn't matter what plays you call. NOw they are making the proper adjustments needed to fit the way modern college football is played. The QB's and recievers in particular, along with the rest of the offense, will look much better next season.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:14 pm to boxcar willie
To be fair, that offense was nowhere near executed properly
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:20 pm to JaxTiger10
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This is so ignorant.
What is ignorant is seeing the exact same scheme/philosophy through three different OC's and believing that a forth will finally produce a different result.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:29 pm to cheesesteak501
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He's been here for 2 years and one of those years produced a 3,000 yd passer, 1000 yd rusher and 2 1,000 yard receivers.
Amen. Give them man some time and let some of his recruits move past their true freshman year. Cam didn't bring Jennings on board. It's who he inherited after Mett. Harris is his first QB recruit to LSU, but being a true freshman in the SEC is no easy task to take on. You can't lose an senior QB and plug Jennings or Harris without missing a beat. Too much of an experience gap. This isn't the ACC.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:29 pm to DeltaDoc
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Is Cam on the hot seat after this season if the offensive output and QB play does not improve drastically?
Not at all.
If the LSU offense fails to significantly improve, Coach Steele and Coach Orgeron will both be told to "look around" for work because they are no longer wanted at LSU.
That's how Coach Miles rolls -- he has no tolerance for failure.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:30 pm to LSUGlory16
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My issue with Cam is he recruits these spread offense duel threat qb's and tries to mold them into Phillip Rivers or Joe Flacco. Here's a hint Cam, nobody runs a pro style offense in high school. Power high schools run the veer (Curtis, wm, Acadiana) or they run the spread. he needs to adapt his offense to the players he recruits or he can take his pro style O somewhere else.
Are you stupid? Harris can learn a pro style system. He wasn't a running QB in high school. Dude threw for 3500 yards and 37 TDs in only his second year playing football.
He was never going to be ready as a true freshman, that was just it. He was too raw. Go watch Brad Kaaya high school highlights in a spread system, then see him play in Miami's pro style system as a true freshman.
We don't need to abandon the pro style system, we do need Harris to get better though. I would also like to see a 3 receiver set as well.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:40 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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What is ignorant is seeing the exact same scheme/philosophy through three different OC's and believing that a forth will finally produce a different result.
Jimbo ran the traditional pro-style offense
Crowton ran a spread passing offense
Cameron runs the Air Coryell offense.
How are these remotely the same?
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