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re: I can't figure out people who hate Christmas

Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:55 am to
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:55 am to
I can't stand the gift giving portion of Christmas. My wife, sister in law, sister, mom all thrown in to this bullshite huff about getting people gifts and buying gifts "if someone will be there" and "what if this person doesn't get a gift". It's fricking ridiculous and it costs me a fortune every year.

I just try to focus on my kid's Christmas and get through it. I'm very happy when it's over because of all the rush.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:55 am to
Sounds to me like some of boys life just sucks in general.

Can't help you there.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Nobody is forcing you to go do all of that.



More or less incorrect. There is a strong normative influence. Failure to do so would have consequences.

I'm sure that sounded good in your head, but for all practical purposes it is wrong. In reality, I am more or less required to spend a couple hundred bucks on my family every year.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:57 am to
I agree the kids receiving of presents is most important.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Sounds to me like some of boys life just sucks in general.



Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. Am I right, TIGRLEE?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Sounds to me like some of boys life just sucks in general.


goddamn you suck so bad

you make a post trying to figure out why some people do not like Christmas

other posters try to give you some perspective and you hate on their lives

try leaving that little bubble of Bunkie every now and then
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Failure to do so would have consequences.


Yea, you wouldn't get gifts the next year, so you would actually win the war. You sound like a twat that would jump off of a bridge because that's what the norm is.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Salmon


He does the same thing regarding Jarrett Lee. Still. 4 years later.
Posted by CrazyCrawfish
Member since Nov 2014
384 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:00 am to
Christmas depresses me
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:00 am to
I'm an aethist but I love Christmas. The trees and decorations and holiday spirit, watching Christmas movies and buying/getting presents. Holiday dinner. I love the commercial/consumer Christmas, doesn't bother me about the religious aspects.

I think some people are just miserable.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Bunkie


That dudes from Ellic. Don't mess with my shite, baw.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Yea, you wouldn't get gifts the next year, so you would actually win the war.


Uh, no. Much more serious than that.

quote:

You sound like a twat that would jump off of a bridge because that's what the norm is.


Have I not been questioning social norms throughout this thread? I'm the one saying "Hey, why is everybody jumping off the bridge?"

And here you are telling me I'm a "twat" for it. You sound immature and a little slow.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:01 am to
I don't live in bunkie nor have I ever lived there.


The perspective is that their lives suck in general.
Don't hate for me just stating the obvious.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22425 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:02 am to
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This is where it is what you make it.

Nobody is forcing you to go do all of that.


Yeah this is bull shite. My parents REFUSE to give me any sort of list or suggestion as to what they might want. Then when asked, will say "I dont need anything, you dont have to get me anything." But if Christmas morning they got jack shite as everybody was opening gifts it would be awkward, and i would feel like a dick. Then on top of that when i do give them something they say "YOu didnt have to do that" YES I DID!!!

So every Decemeber im walking around the mall wanting to kill myself looking for some random piece of shite that my parents dont want or need so i dont feel like a scum bag haha.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:03 am to
5. Can be extremely depressing if you are alone

And the present pressure can really be hard if you're not able
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:03 am to
That's what I'm seeing as well. Lee must live a pretty charmed life to be able to decide how much Internet strangers' lives suck. Perspective is a really good thing.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:04 am to
May have been mentioned but IMO #1 is probably people that grew up or live in dysfunctional and secular/materialist-focused families. Under those circumstances it's easy for Christmas to turn into a stress factory. Sad.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:04 am to
I don't hate Christmas, I'm indifferent to it. I'm not religious. I buy gifts for some of my immediate family and that's it. I expect no gifts from anyone. I don't put a tree or lights up..
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:06 am to
To elaborate:

There are three ways to exert normative influence on a group of people.

1) The threat of sanction (i.e., punishment) - this could come in a variety of forms, including ostracizing deviants

2) The promise of incentives (i.e., you reward somebody for doing a certain thing)

3) The promotion of belief (i.e., you get people to believe that something is right)

Christmas, as a social institution, exerts strong normative influence on people. It works mostly through #3 (see, TIGRLEE). But it also gives the illusion of #2 while presenting a serious case of #1.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:07 am to
Get them a card. Sorry your parents are like that. Mine are good with a card and a bottle of wine.
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