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How do our guys transition to the NFL so well?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:03 pm
Seemingly better than any other school. Is it raw talent, coaching, player drive, both? It's incredible all the starters we have around the league right now.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:05 pm to PapaPogey
You know they can't be getting developed by Miles right
Seriously though, it's a combination of talent, coaching, and playing against good competition in conference IMO.
Seriously though, it's a combination of talent, coaching, and playing against good competition in conference IMO.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:06 pm to PapaPogey
Pro style system on offense, and our defensive players are studs, which makes the transition easier.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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playing against good competition in conference IMO.
That's kinda what I'm thinking as well. The jump in talent from one league to the other is not as drastic as it is for other teams.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:06 pm to PapaPogey
LSU's coaches seem really emphasize getting players ready for the next level. Some coaches could care less what happens to their players at the next level as long as they're winning games.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:07 pm to PapaPogey
They dont make all their money in college.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:23 pm to harry coleman beast
The main difference in my mind is that lsu's system is simple and the players win with talent. So players that aren't nfl caliber don't get drafted.
Other schools that use more sophisticated schemes can inflate a player's perceived ability. Therefore, they get drafted and underperform.
Other schools that use more sophisticated schemes can inflate a player's perceived ability. Therefore, they get drafted and underperform.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:24 pm to Mahootney
Good point. They play for stats, we don't.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:11 pm to PapaPogey
I believe it is for a lot of reasons:
1. the system we run, both offense and defense 2. the competition level
3. And probably the best reason, is that the players are very talented to begin with...
I still like HCB's comment tho, they are very hungry when they leave LSU!!!
1. the system we run, both offense and defense 2. the competition level
3. And probably the best reason, is that the players are very talented to begin with...
I still like HCB's comment tho, they are very hungry when they leave LSU!!!
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:20 pm to PapaPogey
Pro style everything. Execs know that even an LSU backup is likely to be more NFL ready than others.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:22 pm to PapaPogey
1. Coach em up; Chavis, Cam, Wilson, etc.. Now add Grimes
2. Competition level: play against the best
3. Toughness; Miles develops it better than anyone, physical and mental
4. Strength and conditioning and work ethic: coach M
2. Competition level: play against the best
3. Toughness; Miles develops it better than anyone, physical and mental
4. Strength and conditioning and work ethic: coach M
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:45 pm to Mahootney
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The main difference in my mind is that lsu's system is simple and the players win with talent. So players that aren't nfl caliber don't get drafted. Other schools that use more sophisticated schemes can inflate a player's perceived ability. Therefore, they get drafted and underperform.
Is this sarcasm? I honestly cannot tell.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:49 pm to wolff1277
ding ding
La players have and will always be underrated...even though some are rated high...overall, many fall through the cracks.
La players have and will always be underrated...even though some are rated high...overall, many fall through the cracks.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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Seriously though, it's a combination of talent, coaching, and playing against good competition in conference IMO.
I agree!
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:46 pm to PapaPogey
The level of talent is most important, but the consistent play in practice and in games against the best develops that talent significantly. Additionally, in the SEC West, you see pretty much every kind of offensive scheme, from the Auburn gimmicks to the Bama or Arky old school approaches to the hybrid attacks. All in all, the level and variety of competition prepares the players as well as they could possibly be prepared.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:48 pm to PapaPogey
They are talented, smart and very goal directed. Not sure where that would come from, but there you have it.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:13 pm to White Tiger
They're talented on their own, but smart and goal oriented because of their coaches.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:17 pm to PapaPogey
I think in Bama's system they have a lot of busts because they have no ceilings in the NFL. It's more that Saban/staff get their players to maximum ability in college. LSU leaves ceilings available for the NFL so they transition easier over because they have more potential. It's not a knock on LSU's coaching but rather a compliment on how well Bama's system is on preparing their players. I think LSU likes to recruit athletes with more raw talent and higher ceilings. Combine that with the fact we can't get anyone to stay past their junior year and it's easy to see why they blossom in the NFL. A guy matures every year in college but if you can't keep them 4 years you'll never see their ceilings hit anyway. Some guys hit the ceiling quick and they're topped off but at LSU they recruit high ceilings.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:24 pm to deuce985
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I think in Bama's system they have a lot of busts because they have no ceilings in the NFL. It's more that Saban/staff get their players to maximum ability in college. LSU leaves ceilings available for the NFL so they transition easier over because they have more potential. It's not a knock on LSU's coaching but rather a compliment on how well Bama's system is on preparing their players.
so let me get this straight...Bama maximizes players in college so they have no room to grow in NFL, which turns them into busts? LSU doesn't develop as well, plus player leaves in 3 years, which leaves plenty of ceiling, thus LSU players transition nicely to NFL??
Yea, that makes plenty of sense...
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