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Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?

Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:44 pm
15 were killed today in a United Nations school with NO weapons. What's the reasoning behind supporting an artificial apartheid country that is killing innocent civilians as we speak. How can you support a country that spies on us, destroyed one of our naval ships, and sells our weapons to other countries. They haven't signed the nuclear non proliferation act. They violated the Geneva convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes. It has seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions. Israel routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire.

They denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon. Israel also allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody. This country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer which killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.

They deliberately targeted a civilian U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana , Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children. They signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing. Israel has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in recent years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children. If you support israel and Zionism, you support terrorism, violence, oppression, imperialism, and tyranny among other things.

I'd like to change the crusader/israel supporters minds but it's impossible to change those minds. They are not interested in reason, history, logic, etc. They're emotional, religious reasons. They lack evidence and don't require it. Telling them they're wrong only fuels their fire because they play the victim card. The evangelicals and Zionists love the faux-persecution angle because being a victim is so honorable to them that they make themselves one.

I doubts many pro Zionists and crusaders even realize how many Jews are against Zionism and Israel. Judaism forbids a Jewish state.







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Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:47 pm to
So you think this conflict is the result of Zionism?

GTFO
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:47 pm to
I don't I personally just recognize we do bad shite too so I'm not sure what authority we have anymore to condemn anything. Do wish we would stop giving them $$$ though.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:48 pm to
Israel has a right defend itself against the 1,000's of rockets Hamas is lobbing over the border. Period. Civilians die in war, it's part of it.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:49 pm to
I only support them in their conflict against Palestinians. They're the lesser of two evils.

This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?
So... I more or less agree with your post, but can you stop pretending this is a new issue you just started caring about?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Civilians die in war, it's part of it.


When Palestinian children are killed the above is what you get.

When Israeli children are killed - they are innocents killed by terrorists!!!!

It's pathetic that people pick sides on this issue.

We need to get un-involved and stop funding all of these asshats.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

So you think this conflict is the result of Zionism?


Do you know what Zionism is?
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:53 pm to
I have been fascinated by this board's staunch support of Zionism. One would think Louisiana, specifically south LA, would not be as evangelical as other states in the region. Do Catholics in south L.A. adhere to dispensationalism?

I wonder if some Protestant evangelicals consider that John of Patmos may very likely have been referring to Nero and the pagan Roman empire in the Revelation. The Hagee theory seems a little too convenient and coincidental to the Neocon movement of the Bush administration to be considered absolute, but to each his own I guess.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

When Palestinian children are killed the above is what you get.

When Israeli children are killed - they are innocents killed by terrorists!!!!
since you quoted me, when the hell have I ever said this?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

So you think this conflict is the result of Zionism? GTFO


I don't think it is. I know it is.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:56 pm to
Burt Reynolds the new board stooge.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16740 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:


Israel has a right defend itself against the 1,000's of rockets Hamas is lobbing over the border. Period. Civilians die in war, it's part of it.


I thought the same thing too, but did you ever consider theres a reason for the 1,000s of rockets?

Isreal created the problem.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63024 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

So... I more or less agree with your post, but can you stop pretending this is a new issue you just started caring about?


Nah, brah. His eyes were opened after recently visiting Palestine for sightseeing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118814 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Israel has a right defend itself against the 1,000's of rockets Hamas is lobbing over the border. Period. Civilians die in war, it's part of it.


Pretty much this.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Posted by Message TT9 Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism? Israel has a right defend itself against the 1,000's of rockets Hamas is lobbing over the border. Period. Civilians die in war, it's part of it.


Geneva disagrees. They've called them "war crimes". Either way, it's the Palestinians' land not Israel's.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:00 pm to
Liberal Myths about the TD Political Board

1) Everybody loves Putin

2) Everybody supports Israel

3) Everybody thinks we should put troops back in Iraq.



These three things are believed by almost no one on this board but the leftist think that's what the majority of posters believe. It's bullshite and I wish yall would get it straight.
Posted by fleaux
section 0
Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Burt Reynolds the new board stooge.


But he just started feeling this way after a trip where Israelis were mean to him and the Palestinians were so, so nice

Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23484 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:01 pm to
because the media control their brains and they follow
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Palestinians' land not Israel's.


I didn't know Palestine was ever a nation. Fill me in please.
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