re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?

You know to be clear, one can be pro-Zionist while not being pro-the Israeli government being heavy handed and acting like assholes half the time. I respect Netanyahu's sincere commitment to his people and much of what he's personally done in the name of Israel's security over the years. But it's time to put his arse out to pasture. Achieving an uneasy peace over there is difficult enough because of Arab intrasigence, but nothing will ever get done with Netanyahu at the helm. Dude's a loose cannon.

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Right to exist

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What right do they have to exist? Stealing someone else's land under the protection and support of the British Empire doesn't give you the right to exist. Nuclear weapons, advanced weaponry and US financial support are the only thing that gives Israel the right to exist.

I suggest you give your house to a Native American in the near future.

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You know to be clear, one can be pro-Zionist while not being pro-the Israeli government being heavy handed and acting like a-holes half the time. I respect Netanyahu's sincere commitment to his people and much of what he's personally done in the name of Israel's security over the years. But it's time to put his arse out to pasture. Achieving an uneasy peace over there is difficult enough because of Arab intrasigence, but nothing will ever get done with Netanyahu at the helm. Dude's a loose cannon.

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The problem with that is that Israel is a (limited) democracy. And the hell of it is, Netanyahu is a legitimate representative of his people. Insofar as anyone might replace him, it's going to be either Lieberman, Bennett or someone more hawkish within Likud, like Yaalon. There aren't any doves walking through that door. Not even any pragmatists like Sharon or Olmert were. Israel has taken a pretty hard turn in the last decade, and Kerry wasn't wrong when he said that the two-state solution was probably almost out of time.

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There are zero native Americans where I live to give it back too.

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I can assure you one will show up if you put it on Craigslist. Hypocrite.

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What right do they have to exist? Stealing someone else's land under the protection and support of the British Empire doesn't give you the right to exist. Nuclear weapons, advanced weaponry and US financial support are the only thing that gives Israel the right to exist.

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It's moot. They exist. They're recognized by the people who matter most in the international community. The fact that they lack a certain legitimacy with their neighbors renders their right to exist more dependent upon weapons, but every nation that exists relies (or relied) to some degree on the the force of arms.

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Because frick Islam !!

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Not sure why this isn't a bannable offense. I guess it's okay to make these statements but it's bannable to say anything contradictory to popular opinion on this board.

Fwiw, Palestinians are Christian and Muslim.

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It's not their land they stole it during the muslim conquests then other turkish muslims stole it from them.

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This post is incorrect, however, We are talking about modern times where private land ownership is universally recognized as a mark of freedom. If you build a house and have a deed, do you not own it? You don't believe in private land ownership? How is it okay to take a Palestinians house and land just because Turks conquered it 1000 years ago when private land ownership wasn't a right?

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It's moot. They exist. They're recognized by the people who matter most in the international community. The fact that they lack a certain legitimacy with their neighbors renders their right to exist more dependent upon weapons, but every nation that exists relies (or relied) to some degree on the the force of arms.

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Ever heard of Bhutan?

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Wut

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I was quoting you, you said that Britain shipped them there but then they invaded and stole the land !! Which is it !

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quote: It's moot. It's more than that it's historical ignorance. He says the British Empire took their land. Who's land? The Ottomans? Well the Turks took the land from the Arabs, who took it from the Persians & the Byzantines. Or maybe we should give it back to the Greeks?

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You're obviously a racist based off your past post. Again, we are talking about modern times ( within the past 50 years). Every old world nation used to be owned by someone but israel is the only artificially created country. With your reasoning, you would be completely fine with someone taking your passport and possessing or demolishing your house under no other pretense than you being American.