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One of Greatest Speeches Ever, July 5th 1853
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:33 am
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:33 am
"The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro" by Frederick Douglass
Full Text, A masterful speech everyone should read.
quote:
What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sound of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants brass fronted impudence; your shout of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanks-givings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy -- a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour.
Full Text, A masterful speech everyone should read.
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:37 am to fouldeliverer
Thats a Debbie Downer speech
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 7:38 am
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:40 am to fouldeliverer
Muh boy Freddy D, up in da house WHAT WHAT!
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:59 am to fouldeliverer
The greatest BOOM in the history of speeches. +1 for you sir
ETA: Who the frick down voted you? Someone who can't handle the truth obviously
ETA: Who the frick down voted you? Someone who can't handle the truth obviously
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 8:01 am
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:01 am to RDRGeaux09
Some might even call it, DaBoom.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:06 am to BRgetthenet
Am I today, supposed to feel guilty for the injustices of which he spoke back then? Is this that White Guilt from which I am supposed to suffer? To whom do I write the Reparations check?
Great historical perspective but I don't see the relevance to celebrating what we enjoy on this day.
Great historical perspective but I don't see the relevance to celebrating what we enjoy on this day.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:11 am to jbgleason
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To whom do I write the Reparations check?
Oh, don't worry, you have been writing the check via payroll deduction.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:16 am to fouldeliverer
Oh, come on. Hyperbole much? Slavery wasn't that awful.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:22 am to jbgleason
Historical perspective is always needed to interpret the present and as Douglass said to "discern the dim outlines of the future and by which we make them more symmetrical." The legacy of slavery did not end with emancipation, it continued with Jim Crow, it did not end with the Civil Rights Act of 1865. You need not feel guilt but you should feel sorrow, sorrow the horrific instruction of slavery existed in our "Empire of Liberty", sorrow it cost 600,000 men's lives before it ended, sorrow that slavery was existing by another name after Reconstruction and sorrow that we still struggle with racial bigotry today. Guilt is not needed but appropriate historical memory is.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:23 am to fouldeliverer
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"The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro" by Frederick Douglass
So he uses the word and he's a champion for human rights, I use the word and have to meet with HR. Talk about a double-standard.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:26 am to LucasP
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So he uses the word and he's a champion for human rights, I use the word and have to meet with HR. Talk about a double-standard.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:27 am to fouldeliverer
I think you meant July 4th, 1996.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:35 am to fouldeliverer
I am Italian on one side so I guess I need to feel bad about my people for knocking off that Jesus guy. Then there is my mothers family that is German so I need to reflect on that whole Holocaust debacle. Since they all came to America at some point, well after Slavery was over, I still apparently have to bear that burden since my skin color is relatively pale.
Damn, I guess I am just not allowed to feel good ever. Definitely White Guilt setting in.
Damn, I guess I am just not allowed to feel good ever. Definitely White Guilt setting in.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:41 am to fouldeliverer
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You need not feel guilt but you should feel sorrow, sorrow the horrific instruction of slavery existed in our "Empire of Liberty", sorrow it cost 600,000 men's lives before it ended, sorrow that slavery was existing by another name after Reconstruction and sorrow that we still struggle with racial bigotry today.
Boo frickin hoo
They should be thankful they ended up in this great nation during slavery. 5% of African slaves shipped out ended up in america. Their life expectancy was 10 times grater here than in the carribeans and Brazil, where millions went to die.
My ancestors suffered too, so their children, and their children, and their children, etc could live in the greatest country on earth.
Freddy Dee should have brought his arse back to Africa if it was so terrible here, just like most of our European ancestors did when they were tired of the shite they had to deal with in their country.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:51 am to fouldeliverer
Did Freddy ( or any black historical figures/heroes) ever make reference to the Africans that sold them to the Dutch traders who sold them to the evil horrible white Americans? I mean has any black figure ever recognized that their own people played just a slight role in their history?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:52 am to TeddyPadillac
Compelling argument.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:52 am to fouldeliverer
You can f right off with that shite
Where in the history of the world has a minority group not payed a price for the establishment of a nation? I'll wait...
I'm not saying it's right but this is literally human nature and not an 'American' problem in the slightest.
Why everyone wants to bitch and moan and feel regret about something that most of the world STILL experiences to some degree is beyond me.
Where in the history of the world has a minority group not payed a price for the establishment of a nation? I'll wait...
I'm not saying it's right but this is literally human nature and not an 'American' problem in the slightest.
Why everyone wants to bitch and moan and feel regret about something that most of the world STILL experiences to some degree is beyond me.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:58 am to fouldeliverer
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You need not feel guilt
Well, thank you.
Having your permission to not feel guilty over something that ended well over a hundred years before my time removes a tremendous burden from my shoulders. I'll actually be able to function today.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 8:59 am to TeddyPadillac
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TeddyPadillac
U are a true American.
I wouldn't be the man I am today without the help of the good ol white man.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:04 am to fouldeliverer
I'm more inclined to the Ulrich B. Philips school of thought. How much better off to be in the United States right now than Africa?
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