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Samsung to end plasma TV production this year.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:56 am
Pioneer Kuro discontinued in 2010 -> Panasonic plasma discontinued in 2013 and now Samsung. Plasma will be extinct in a year. Such a shame because plasma picture quality is unbeatable at the moment. Hopefully OLED will go mainstream soon.
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:01 am to Phat Phil
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:02 am to Phat Phil
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plasma picture quality is unbeatable at the momen
welcome to 2003.
plasma is heavy, suffers burn-in (yes, it still does despite all the technical rube goldberg hacks to get around this fatal flaw) and quite frankly no R&D is going into this outdated tech.
why is it a surprise this expensive tech is being dropped in favor of lightweight and paper-thin OLED and other technologies?
eta you can't curve a plasma
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:03 am to CAD703X
solid troll
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:05 am to Phat Phil
Plasma has served me well for the past five years but I'll eventually bow to the inevitable, just like I did with my Betamax player and my token ring network and my OS2 pc.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:31 am to Layabout
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CAD703X
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:38 am to colorchangintiger
hey, not my fault if someone wants to buy something that weighs 300lbs, you can't see the screen on in a bright room and has the QVC shopping logo permanently burned into one corner of it and is no longer made by unknown tv makers like samsung, pioneer, panasonic & LG.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:13 am to CAD703X
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plasma is heavy, suffers burn-in (yes, it still does despite all the technical rube goldberg hacks to get around this fatal flaw) and quite frankly no R&D is going into this outdated tech.
why is it a surprise this expensive tech is being dropped in favor of lightweight and paper-thin OLED and other technologies?
eta you can't curve a plasma
I think that is what it boils down to. Plasma's cost much more to mfg. My plasma's have served me well and I prefer them to my LCD/ LED's.
I will wait until OLED becomes more mainstream to upgrade my plasmas
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:23 am to jennyjones
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I think that is what it boils down to. Plasma's cost much more to mfg. My plasma's have served me well and I prefer them to my LCD/ LED's.
it all boils down to the fact plasma has kinda reached its product maturity and has no room to improve. it is what it is.
led/lcd/oled whatever is still dramatically improving every year..and the upside is tremendous.
thats whats going on here. plasma is heavy and you can't really work around that. LEDs are getting lighter by the day which means 70..85..100inch can be built & shipped cheaply..and with 4K right around the corner..plasma is pretty much sitting this one out.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 11:51 am to CAD703X
My 60" Samsung plasma is the shite. Rip
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:12 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:43 pm to illuminatic
y'all have to remember i'm the guy who bought the 50" hisense for $299 from walmart a few months ago too.
i think its nuts (personally) to spend $1-2K on a tv right now until everything shakes out a little more.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:48 pm to CAD703X
Until what shakes out? 4k? That's not happening anytime soon. Besides, nothing ever "shakes out". TVs are always evolving. I get a new TV every 2 years anyway so it's not like I'll be missing it when it happens.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:50 pm to illuminatic
LCD is a dead end for black level, which is critical for good picture quality. The best LCDs are stuck at .01 to .02 fL for the minimum light output when they actually have to display an image (this is 10x the level of recently discontinued Panasonic plasmas), and the dimming strategies that improve on this introduce distracting blooming and don't always maintain detail. The edge-lit sets are a complete joke with zones half the width of the screen, the FALD sets never have nearly enough zones, and their price is an exponential function of the number of zones. Then there are the screen uniformity, flashlighting, poor motion, and other LCD issues.
OLED is the only hope for people who have a home theater or otherwise watch in a dark room and care about PQ. I'm glad I bought an ST60 last year. Best $1000 I ever spent on video by far.
OLED is the only hope for people who have a home theater or otherwise watch in a dark room and care about PQ. I'm glad I bought an ST60 last year. Best $1000 I ever spent on video by far.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:06 pm to illuminatic
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I wouldn't trade my plasma for any TV on the market right now.
me neither (Panny 65VT60). Hope it lives a long and fruitful life and by the time it needs to be replaced OLED or whatever the new hotness is ready for primetime.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:23 pm to CAD703X
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plasma is heavy, suffers burn-in (yes, it still does despite all the technical rube goldberg hacks to get around this fatal flaw)
I have a 4 year old Panasonic plasma, and I have never had a permanent burn in. It might have a tempory image remnant after turning off an auxiliary device. However, it goes away within moments, and doesn't show up during programs.
My understanding was that burn in was only a problem on much older plasmas.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:36 pm to Phat Phil
Good thing I just bought a 60" Sammy plasma a few weeks ago. 
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:29 pm to UltimateHog
I don't hate my Plasma, but it's had more issues than my other TVs and gets warm as hell when it's on. Won't be sad to see I to, but the picture is great.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:37 pm to Bmath
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I have a 4 year old Panasonic plasma, and I have never had a permanent burn in. It might have a tempory image remnant after turning off an auxiliary device. However, it goes away within moments, and doesn't show up during programs.
My understanding was that burn in was only a problem on much older plasmas.
True burn-in is rare in more recent models, if it occurs at all.
Image retention OTOH was a notable problem on the 2012 (50 series) and 2013 (60 series) Panasonics. High contrast channel logos, clock displays, etc can cause IR within minutes that can last hours, and watching a whole game on ESPN can cause IR lasting days to weeks. The Cartoon Network logo is also said to be very bad.
The good news is that it does fade, and it usually isn't visible, showing up mainly in light backgrounds of fairly uniform color. The Screen Wipe feature can help fade it, and so can things like Disney WoW's Pixel Flipper. As for the TV's pixel orbiter, all it can do is feather the edges a little bit; IOW, it's essentially useless. The sets may become more resistant to IR with age, and I'm talking several thousand hours of viewing.
Here's a pretty infamous article from a couple years ago:
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Ultimately, IR is not a huge problem unless you have a particularly bad sample and you leave it on ESPN or something else with static logos all day. If you watch a variety of material, it's usually not a problem.
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