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How Much Canoe Would You Hang Out the Back of Your Truck?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm
I have a 14.5' canoe and a crew cab truck with a 5.5' bed. I built a quick rack a couple of years ago to haul it with, but it's a pain in the arse to put in my truck.
I was thinking about getting one of these things:
But, after measuring my canoe (I didn't realize it was quite that long), I'm not so sure that's a good idea.
What says the OB? Bad idea?
As an alternative, the rack can also be flipped so that the long side goes up, which would allow the other end of the canoe to sit on top of the cab. This would be great, if I had a rack on my cab, but I don't.
I was thinking about getting one of these things:
But, after measuring my canoe (I didn't realize it was quite that long), I'm not so sure that's a good idea.
What says the OB? Bad idea?
As an alternative, the rack can also be flipped so that the long side goes up, which would allow the other end of the canoe to sit on top of the cab. This would be great, if I had a rack on my cab, but I don't.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:42 pm to Teague
Put some pool noodles on roof and run a strap through the cab/ door jam. Could put a rope to front bumper too if need be. Would be secure.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:43 pm to Teague
I have a ranger with a short bed and have no issues carrying 14' kayaks. Just strap them in and put some weight inside the front end of the canoe to add support.
Those bed extenders work fine too. Salmon has one he uses but I don't think they're necessary.
Those bed extenders work fine too. Salmon has one he uses but I don't think they're necessary.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:44 pm to Teague
Should be fine in the bed with the extender.
I know a guy who hauls a 14ft kayak in a ranger with no extender (^ that guy up there) and a guy who hauls a 16ft kayak in a Tacoma.
I know a guy who hauls a 14ft kayak in a ranger with no extender (^ that guy up there) and a guy who hauls a 16ft kayak in a Tacoma.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:52 pm to Teague
Put it in the bed right side up. Tie a "cajun come a long" from the back handle to the front stake pocket in the truck. Use a ratchet strap to keep the middle down
I've never had a baby bed truck, but that's how I've done it with a 14ft canoe, pirogue, flat boat, and a 16ft flat boat
I've never had a baby bed truck, but that's how I've done it with a 14ft canoe, pirogue, flat boat, and a 16ft flat boat
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:57 pm to Hammertime
Alright, here's a physics/geometry question:
With that much boat hanging out back behind the back wheels, am I going to sideswipe cars/trees/grannies when I make turns? I'm trying to visualize if the boat will just follow me, or if it will swing way out to the side.
With that much boat hanging out back behind the back wheels, am I going to sideswipe cars/trees/grannies when I make turns? I'm trying to visualize if the boat will just follow me, or if it will swing way out to the side.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:07 pm to Teague
Get a headache rack for your truck. Despite being really awful looking they're handy as hell.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:10 pm to Teague
I'd try and get one Yakima bar for the cab portion and use that mount with it. Keep it as flat as possible and high up, kind of like this.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:10 pm to Teague
I have a screw f150 with a short bed and I carry my 14.5 kayak with one of those bed extenders with no problem. It was like $60 from harbor freight.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:12 pm to Gaston
That was my thought, but from what I can tell, those things aren't cheap. I need cheap.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:14 pm to Teague
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With that much boat hanging out back behind the back wheels, am I going to sideswipe cars/trees/grannies when I make turns? I'm trying to visualize if the boat will just follow me, or if it will swing way out to the side.
You'll be fine. Just strap it tight and it shouldn't move too much. Ratchet straps are your friend, but you only need one. I'm paranoid about stuff falling out of my truck, but you don't need 14 pieces of rope to keep a kayak in your truck bed.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:20 pm to The Last Coco
Gonna hijack a bit but to gain a little more room on our 22’ flat boat we made a U shaped bracket to stack 3 or 4 pirouges, it hung over the side of the boat about 16’” and one time while going over the US 90 bridge in Morgan city we passed a cyclist, I don’t think we knocked him into the river but it was close – good thing he only had one layer of spandex on……
Oh and I have a 13' pirouge that I put in 5.5' tacoma bed - just ratchet it tight and put dekes etc in fron end, now I dont go too far w/ it maybe 15 mi tops
Oh and I have a 13' pirouge that I put in 5.5' tacoma bed - just ratchet it tight and put dekes etc in fron end, now I dont go too far w/ it maybe 15 mi tops
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:30 pm to Teague
The kayak will follow your truck, essentially you have just made your truck a few feet longer, no different than carrying lumber in the back of a truck. It's a lot different than pulling a trailer.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:30 pm to Teague
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With that much boat hanging out back behind the back wheels, am I going to sideswipe cars/trees/grannies when I make turns? I'm trying to visualize if the boat will just follow me, or if it will swing way out to the side.
I hauled a 14' flat in the bed of a 1984 short-bed Toyota pickup to every river, gravel pit, pond, ditch, lake, bayou in the Florida Parishes every weekend during high school and college. I would put a cinder block and an ice chest in the boat against the cab, and tie a rope from the nose of the boat to the bumper "just for looks." The only time I ever had an issue was when I hit a cow backing up in a pasture. She never moved until the boat hit her, then she somehow knocked the boat out of the back of my truck with her head. Hell, we used to stack flats 2-high when going on a float trip with 4 people. Put one boat on top of the other and carry on. When doing that, we'd draw straws to see who had to ride on top of the double-stacked boats (didn't have no king-cabs back then).
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:31 pm to Teague
I like the extender. I have an Escalade so the bed is short anyway and I transport my 16' canoe with the extender.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:37 pm to Litigator
Alright, thanks for all the comments, guys. Looks like it's definitely doable.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:01 pm to Teague
49%
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:13 pm to Teague
I had a 16.5' canoe that would not work well in the 6.5' bed of a Silverado. Even tied down properly, it started to develop gelcoat cracking at the pivot point. The bed extender solved the problem.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:45 pm to Teague
14 canoe and 6'6" bed.
routinely carry it with portage handle of canoe tied to passanger side front bed stake pocket, and the canoe pushed to opposite corner and hanging out the back on drivers side.
tie a red rag to the end, put your gear in canoe near the cab, and have a nice drive.
routinely carry it with portage handle of canoe tied to passanger side front bed stake pocket, and the canoe pushed to opposite corner and hanging out the back on drivers side.
tie a red rag to the end, put your gear in canoe near the cab, and have a nice drive.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:56 pm to Teague
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With that much boat hanging out back behind the back wheels, am I going to sideswipe cars/trees/grannies when I make turns? I'm trying to visualize if the boat will just follow me, or if it will swing way out to the side
Yes and no. With a trailer tight turns mean your trailer cuts off the inside of the curve.
With a fixed long length extending from your back wheels you will in fact have the canoe swing much wider than your truck.
With wider sweeping turns the difference is negligible with both.
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