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Fitness gurus: weightlifting advice for teen
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:06 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:06 am
I want to get my kid into a workout routine this summer. He'll be 15 in August. He's around 5'9" /140. Does 10-15 hours/week of martial arts training, half of it focused on high intensity "extreme weapons" forms, so his cardio is good. Don't want to bulk him up too much and lose flexibility, just increase strength and help him tone up. I haven't worked out in the past couple decades, and not looking to join a gym and get a trainer - just want something he can do at home. Should I spend $500 or so on a decent weight machine, or just get him a good bench with attachments and some free weights? Can anyone suggest what a basic routine would consist of?
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:07 am to 911Moto
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I want to get my kid into a workout routine
Awesome.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:07 am to 911Moto
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hould I spend $500 or so on a decent weight machine, or just get him a good bench with attachments and some free weights?
free weights.
but a gym membership is better, imo.
Home gyms are, 90% of the time, a waste and take up space.
Anyways, I would really look into using body weight type of movements. as suggested above, p90x could work for him.
If he's small already and doesn't need the added weight for football, than p90x will do the trick. Plus, no equipment you have to buy.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:08 am to 911Moto
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good bench with attachments and some free weights
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:12 am to 911Moto
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Don't want to bulk him up too much and lose flexibility
Weightlifting, as a rule does not result in a loss of flexibility.
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just increase strength and help him tone up.
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Can anyone suggest what a basic routine would consist of?
Pullups, chinups, pushups, bodyweight squats, lunges. A "power tower" is a good start - can be left in the garage/carport, and is relatively inexpensive - Example
You can make parallettes out of PVC, relatively inexpensively, and do dips, inverted shoulder presses (bodyweight), and a whole slew of abdominal and gymnastics exercises that would directly translate to his sport, which is obviously martial arts.
Homemade parallette plans
Put the balance of the $500 or so away for a car or his college.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:16 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:12 am to 911Moto
dianabol 
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:12 am to Duckie
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but a gym membership is better, imo. Home gyms are, 90% of the time, a waste and take up space.
I have a spare room that can be used as a weight room, and he has the discipline to train at home since he practices so much on his own for martial arts. If I signed him up for the gym, we'd never make it there on a regular basis. Home is much more convenient.
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Pullups, chinups, pushups, bodyweight squats, lunges. You can make parallettes out of PVC, relatively inexpensively, and do dips, inverted shoulder presses (bodyweight), and a whole slew of abdominal and gymnastics exercises that would directly translate to his sport, which is obviously martial arts.
He already gets a lot of that type of stuff in his martial arts training, so I think he'd get bored with more of it. I think weight training would motivate him more since it is different from his normal exercise routines.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:16 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:13 am to xXLSUXx
My kid wanted weights. We ended up getting a rack of dumbells and a bench. He wanted a straight bar at first but he has found tons of ddumbell exercises and uses the hell out of it.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:13 am to xXLSUXx
Bench and free weights.
FOCUS ON TECHNIQUE
FOCUS ON TECHNIQUE
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:13 am to 911Moto
I did P90X and it's a hell of a workout. It's a lot of body weight exercises (pushups, pullups, jump training, etc.) It's a workout designed to increase athleticism more than just to bulk up.
Crossfit is the new craze nowadays too. I know several high school athletes that just flat out love those workouts. If your son is competitive, he would probably enjoy that. Workouts are intense and it's another program designed to target all areas of fitness, not just strength and building muscle mass.
Crossfit is the new craze nowadays too. I know several high school athletes that just flat out love those workouts. If your son is competitive, he would probably enjoy that. Workouts are intense and it's another program designed to target all areas of fitness, not just strength and building muscle mass.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:14 am to Duckie
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Anyways, I would really look into using body weight type of movements
This is probably the best idea, at least for now. If you do decide to go the gym route, make sure he sticks with the basic movements, i.e. bench press, squats, dead lifts, barbell movements....Stay AWAY from the machines!
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:14 am to 911Moto
Buy an Olympic bar and a couple of 45's.
A handful of 10's and a couple 25's. He'd be good with that for a couple years.
A handful of 10's and a couple 25's. He'd be good with that for a couple years.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:16 am to 911Moto
Get the dude a curl bar and ab roller. Glamour muscles FTW
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:16 am to 911Moto
He's in 8th grade, I don't really see why it'd be necessary to try to go to too much trouble especially since he's not done with puberty yet.
He's already getting "in shape" by doing the martial arts/cardio...just have him rail out push ups, pull ups, dips, etc. Body weight stuff. Or burn some copies of p90x and by 1 or 2 weight bands, done.
He's already getting "in shape" by doing the martial arts/cardio...just have him rail out push ups, pull ups, dips, etc. Body weight stuff. Or burn some copies of p90x and by 1 or 2 weight bands, done.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:18 am to xXLSUXx
Look into the USMC HITT website. There are some really good high intensity work outs, that really don't require much equipment wise.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:19 am to 911Moto
Bad advice throughout this thread. just get him a power cage, bench, bar and weights.
Get him doing starting strength. Buy the book, rear it and teach him how to do the lifts. After he finishes starting strength have him run the greyskull lp. Then switch to wendlers 5/3/1.
Dont be a jackass and have him run a jackass routine. Do some research and ask dantiger or any other serious lifter on here and they will tell you the ssme thing I just told you.
And your comment about toning and losing flexibility is asinine. No such thing as toning and weightlifting helps flexibility. Do some research please. If you don't listen to anything else I said please get starting strength and read it please.
Get him doing starting strength. Buy the book, rear it and teach him how to do the lifts. After he finishes starting strength have him run the greyskull lp. Then switch to wendlers 5/3/1.
Dont be a jackass and have him run a jackass routine. Do some research and ask dantiger or any other serious lifter on here and they will tell you the ssme thing I just told you.
And your comment about toning and losing flexibility is asinine. No such thing as toning and weightlifting helps flexibility. Do some research please. If you don't listen to anything else I said please get starting strength and read it please.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:20 am to 911Moto
If it really is just for the summer just find a gym and get him a 3 month membership. Even if the gym charges a high price for a short term plan it probably woukdnt even be half the cost of what you said you're willing to spend on equipment for the house. Then he would have access to all kinds of stuff.
If your not going the gym route just keep any home purchases simple. A few dumbbells should do it. I've never seen a machine designed for your home thats worth a damn. Quality exercise machines are hard to find at the price you mentioned.
Personally if this was my son, and it was just a summer thing, I would put him in a small group training facility. He will be monitored by professionals who can keep his form in check and plan the workouts for him.
This does not apply to crossfit. That crap is a joke. Let the butt hurt commence crossfitters!
If your not going the gym route just keep any home purchases simple. A few dumbbells should do it. I've never seen a machine designed for your home thats worth a damn. Quality exercise machines are hard to find at the price you mentioned.
Personally if this was my son, and it was just a summer thing, I would put him in a small group training facility. He will be monitored by professionals who can keep his form in check and plan the workouts for him.
This does not apply to crossfit. That crap is a joke. Let the butt hurt commence crossfitters!
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:21 am to lsu777
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Get him doing starting strength. Buy the book, rear it and teach him how to do the lifts. After he finishes starting strength have him run the greyskull lp. Then switch to wendlers 5/3/1.
He's still in middle school, not training for Mr Olympia.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:22 am to MrTwoBits
Buy a Power Rack from Craig's List and Starting Strength.
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