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A story about muzzle control when it mattered.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:54 pm
Sat evening I was hunting with my sister and her husband. They both had rifles and I was carrying an Argentinian 1911 mostly for use when/if they shot a pig and I had to track it.
On the way out we heard some noise and thought it might be pigs rooting. I set them up to take a passing shot on a open lane and went to investigate with the flashlight and 1911 drawn of course. I was never beyond 90 degrees of the line of fire of their muzzles. I found an armadillo. After shooting 3 rounds at the dancing dillo who left excited but unscathed (I know I need to practice with that 1911 more) the slide locked back. I frequently carry only 3-4 rounds anyway so I just figured it was empty and dropped it in my holster with the slide locked back. We walked the additional 50 yards to the truck.
Once there while maintaining muzzle control away from anyone. I dropped the magazine out and racked the slide closed. As a final check I pointed it at the ground several feet away and pulled the trigger.
You know what happened next. BANG!
Apparently there was a live round partially chambered that got hung on the ramp and despite removing the mag it was still in the gun. When I re-racked the slide it chambered fully.
Had I not maintained muzzle control I could have put a .45 through my sis or BIL at point blank range.
In retrospect, I should have removed the magazine and cleared the chamber before holstering the gun earlier. Even though I was carrying it with the slide locked back it set up a situation for poor gun handling later similar to putting loaded and chambered weapons in storage.
Keep them pointed in a safe direction fellas!
On the way out we heard some noise and thought it might be pigs rooting. I set them up to take a passing shot on a open lane and went to investigate with the flashlight and 1911 drawn of course. I was never beyond 90 degrees of the line of fire of their muzzles. I found an armadillo. After shooting 3 rounds at the dancing dillo who left excited but unscathed (I know I need to practice with that 1911 more) the slide locked back. I frequently carry only 3-4 rounds anyway so I just figured it was empty and dropped it in my holster with the slide locked back. We walked the additional 50 yards to the truck.
Once there while maintaining muzzle control away from anyone. I dropped the magazine out and racked the slide closed. As a final check I pointed it at the ground several feet away and pulled the trigger.
You know what happened next. BANG!
Apparently there was a live round partially chambered that got hung on the ramp and despite removing the mag it was still in the gun. When I re-racked the slide it chambered fully.
Had I not maintained muzzle control I could have put a .45 through my sis or BIL at point blank range.
In retrospect, I should have removed the magazine and cleared the chamber before holstering the gun earlier. Even though I was carrying it with the slide locked back it set up a situation for poor gun handling later similar to putting loaded and chambered weapons in storage.
Keep them pointed in a safe direction fellas!
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:02 pm to Bleeding purple
Can never be too safe. I always make it a point to check and double check the chamber of my guns regardless of where I am.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:13 pm to bbvdd
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Can never be too safe
It is so important to teach our children this when they become old enough to handle firearms. I stress this to my stepson till I am blue in the face. Learned from my dad and uncles and pass this down. That is a story that could have ended horribly.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:13 pm to Bleeding purple
Thanks BP. Not enough of these kinds of stories are told. 
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:20 pm to Bleeding purple
Always good to practice that and drill it into others, like youngsters. Thanks for the reminder and CSB!
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:23 pm to Bleeding purple
Thanks for sharing and reminding man. I've been drilling gun safety and control in my 5 year olds head for the past 2 years. I'm definitely going to share your story with him to reinforce.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:45 pm to TexasTiger01
Thanks for sharing that story. An AD can happen to anyone, and I shudder to think what could have happened if you were not properly trained. I'll bet that you had to change your drawers after that 1911 discharged?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:52 pm to Bleeding purple
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In retrospect, I should have removed the magazine and cleared the chamber before holstering the gun earlier
Sure, but in the end your thinking and safe gun handling resulted in no bad consequences. Just shows you can never be too safe.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:56 pm to Bleeding purple
Thanks for sharing BP. It would have been easy to keep the story to yourself because of how someone may be quick to pass judgement. The important part is sharing these lessons so we all remember our responsibilities as gun owners.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:02 pm to GeauxTigers0107
I practice, Every gun is an loaded gun... No matter what, If i double/triple checked it or someone else did. To me it is loaded. This is how my dad taught me, and this is how i will teach my kids one day.
Ive heard too many stories of an "unloaded" gun killing someone.
Ive heard too many stories of an "unloaded" gun killing someone.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:06 pm to Bleeding purple
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As a final check I pointed it at the ground several feet away and pulled the trigger.
i never pull a trigger as a check to make sure its unloaded means... Do you always do this?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:14 pm to Chad504boy
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Do you always do this?
I've noticed a lot of people do this with 1911's. I was taught to never dry fire anything...
Like Ramrod said, treat every gun as if it's loaded. That's what I do because just about everyone of my guns are loaded and stay that way.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:23 pm to Chad504boy
I thought the same thing. Why not rack one more time instead of pulling the trigger?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:29 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I was taught to never dry fire anything...
Yea. That was a big no-no for me growing up. Pulling the trigger on a gun to see if it's loaded is strange, to say the least.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:29 pm to LSUCouyon
Occasional dry firing is not gonna hurt the gun. I am glad you shared this BP and all turned out good.
I do agree that dry firing is not an ideal way to check if it is unloaded or not though
I do agree that dry firing is not an ideal way to check if it is unloaded or not though
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:34 pm to Bleeding purple
That'll sure enough tighten up that pucker factor...
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:37 pm to LSUballs
I don't think that he pulled the trigger to see if it was unloaded, but rather to decock the hammer. Should have racked several times before pulling the trigger, but that would not have decocked the hammer. By the way, I don't think that dry firing a 1911 or any other center fire pistol is harmful. However, do not do it with rimfire weapons.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:41 pm to LSUballs
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That was a big no-no for me growing up.
My Dad would probably pistol whip me if he had ever seen me do it. Glad BP didn't shoot anyone though.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:10 pm to Bleeding purple
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I just figured it was empty
This made me cringe
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:47 pm to Bleeding purple
After I drop the magazine, I still check, as in look in the chamber, before releasing the slide (or not releasing it if I am reloading).
Just yesterday I did a little shooting out in the marsh. I left my gun (DAO) with a full magazine, but no round chambered. I knew this for a fact. When I went to put it in my car, I decided to pull the trigger to de-cock it. I knew there was no round, but I still dropped the magazine and double checked to confirm no round in the chamber before I pulled the trigger. There was not one, and I knew that, but I still checked. I am fanatical about checking. I check and re-check that chambers are emptied or full.
Just yesterday I did a little shooting out in the marsh. I left my gun (DAO) with a full magazine, but no round chambered. I knew this for a fact. When I went to put it in my car, I decided to pull the trigger to de-cock it. I knew there was no round, but I still dropped the magazine and double checked to confirm no round in the chamber before I pulled the trigger. There was not one, and I knew that, but I still checked. I am fanatical about checking. I check and re-check that chambers are emptied or full.
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