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Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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a. it is causing premiums to skyrocket for most people
b. it is causing millions of workers to lose their employer coverage due to the increasing costs of premiums
c. it's causing thousands of businesses to layoff workers reduce hours, or freeze hiring to avoid having to pay for penalties or health coverage
d. it is based on an unconstitutional use of the interstate commerce clause due to the fact that purchasing insurance across state lines is already illegal.
e. it is unconstitutional as a tax due to having been introduced in the wrong house of Congress to be legally passed as a tax.
f. we were lied to about being able to keep our own doctor and insurance
g. it forces religious groups to pay for coverage for their employees that covers provisions that go against their religious beliefs
h. it is causing thousands of doctors to retire early
i. even the unions are up in arms about it


you just blew his mind






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stormyhog
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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I don't get any sort of government payout



I do not believe this, I would actually bet money that you do.


No doubt! If you take a standard deduction for yourself on your income taxes or any type of tax break, you are essentially getting a government payout.

And also, why I hate Obamacare is being forced to buy something from a private company that's in the business of making a profit.

I already have insurance and have had it since I was middle 20's, but I just don't believe the government should force you to fill the coffers of a private company just because you live and breathe.
And






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Rex
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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you just blew his mind

Hardly... I'm QUITE accustomed to lies, half-truths, and speciousness from Republicans on this board.






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Rex
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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No doubt! If you take a standard deduction for yourself on your income taxes or any type of tax break, you are essentially getting a government payout.



Republicans can't even keep their convictions and philosophies straight.






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udtiger
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


Rex, if I were in Congress, I would have voted to eliminate them (and their concomitant taxes) as they were (and are) unconstituional.





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Rex
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Rex, if I were in Congress, I would have voted to eliminate them

If you had made that your platform you would never have been elected.






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Quentin Compson
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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Republicans can't even keep their convictions and philosophies straight.
Rex, what party would you have been a member of 100 years ago?






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Paluka
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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a. it is causing premiums to skyrocket for most people
b. it is causing millions of workers to lose their employer coverage due to the increasing costs of premiums
c. it's causing thousands of businesses to layoff workers reduce hours, or freeze hiring to avoid having to pay for penalties or health coverage
d. it is based on an unconstitutional use of the interstate commerce clause due to the fact that purchasing insurance across state lines is already illegal.
e. it is unconstitutional as a tax due to having been introduced in the wrong house of Congress to be legally passed as a tax.
f. we were lied to about being able to keep our own doctor and insurance
g. it forces religious groups to pay for coverage for their employees that covers provisions that go against their religious beliefs
h. it is causing thousands of doctors to retire early
i. even the unions are up in arms about it

Respond to each part with facts that disprove these points Rex. C'mon, you claim to be smart. Lets have it. Surely you can do it.






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Wild Thang
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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Rex


You are a fool and part of the problem in this country.

You will reap what you have sown before its all said and done.

And I will take pleasure in seeing it happen.






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olemc999
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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i. even the unions are up in arms about it


Rex, this is true



This post was edited on 9/18 at 8:35 pm


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kingbob
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


Rex, defend the constitutionality of Obamacare. Here are your conditions:
1. It was not passed as a tax.
2. The recent supreme court ruling says it is a tax.
3. All tax bills must originate in the House of Representatives, but the Affordable Care Act originated in the Senate.
4. Health Insurance premiums have been rising considerably since the bills passage (more rapidly than they had prior) LINK






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LongueCarabine
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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Respond to each part with facts that disprove these points Rex. C'mon, you claim to be smart. Lets have it. Surely you can do it.


He won't. Because he can't. All he can do is try to ridicule Republicans.

LC






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Rex
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You will reap what you have sown before its all said and done.

Oh? What form will that take? I'm dying to know.






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kingbob
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


probably a death panel deciding that your life saving operation you need isn't cost justified


or you will just have to pay more money for worse health care like everyone else






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IceTiger
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


Look at your pay stub, dingbat, you fund medicare and social security directly...

To defend it will reduce your taxes directly, not the pool of tax money...







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Wild Thang
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What form will it take?


Who knows? Karma is a bitch though, and you liberal sycophants will find out.






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Blue Velvet
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...
Because that is a partisan issue. They love welfare as long as it doesn't make them look bad to other republicans: see Israel, free phones, etc.






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olemc999
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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probably a death panel deciding that your life saving operation you need isn't cost justified


so the government who cant even pass a budget is gonna make this decision about my life life is stranger then fiction sometimes






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kingbob
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re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...


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Because that is a partisan issue. They love welfare as long as it doesn't make them look bad to other republicans: see Israel, free phones, etc.


I don't like any of those things

Granted, I'm a strict constitutional constructionist federalist






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kingbob
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so the government who cant even pass a budget is gonna make this decision about my life life is stranger then fiction sometimes


Your sarcasm meter is broken.

Seriously, though, death panels will exist in some fashion, but they will be at the insurance company, not the government...unless you're forced onto a government exchange because you can't find/afford coverage from a private insurer.






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