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When will College Football lose amateur designation?

Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:37 pm
Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel, now this OSU story all clustered together. People were clamoring for a playoff in loud voices for a time in the national media and now the BCS is being bypassed.

With all the national attention, do you think the time is imminent that players will be given wages for their performance?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
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With all the national attention, do you think the time is imminent that players will be given wages for their performance?


i think they will be heavily regulated and called stipends. I think payers should get whatever a student worker at the university gets. That would work out because there are so many student worked you can't afford to pay them something astronomical.
Posted by ThreauxDown11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1655 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:40 pm to
They are paid. They work hard and bust their arse on the field and are repaid with a full ride scholarship. Media exposure and a chance to make it to the next level for millions. O yea and a degree of their choice. that's pretty substantial payment IMO
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:41 pm to
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think payers should get whatever a student worker at the university gets. That would work out because there are so many student worked you can't afford to pay them something astronomical.


Free tuition, room/board, meal plans, tutoring, and having your degree paved out for you in the easiest way possible isnt enough?
Posted by ThePoo
Work
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:41 pm to
frick me frick you
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42374 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
Miami Fla, UNC, Boise St on probation, USC Trojans, Oregon, Ohio St - it could go on and on.

Jordy said it best this morning, sorry all the minor sports like volleyball but basketball and football deserve to have funds that pay for incidentals or flights home to see sick parents or payment for teammates to go see a cancer stricken teammate like Mark Alcorn that Dale Brown preached to the choir about.

If an athlete needs $500 a month in incidentals that should be a priority with what these players generate in income for the NCAA and schools they play for.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
I hope never,because if all the players are getting stipends some of them and their handlers will just want more.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:50 pm to
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They are paid. They work hard and bust their arse on the field and are repaid with a full ride scholarship. Media exposure and a chance to make it to the next level for millions. O yea and a degree of their choice. that's pretty substantial payment IMO


Bingo. Everyone needs to stop crying. They're not slaves being forced into football. They know it takes lots of time outside of classes to play football by the time they get to college.

Paying players wouldn't solve anything, there'd still be the occasional dirty dealings to pay better players more than the others.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Free tuition, room/board, meal plans, tutoring, and having your degree paved out for you in the easiest way possible isnt enough?



They bring in way more than they get. Exponentially.
They also work more than any student trying to pay their way.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:01 pm to
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They also work more than any student trying to pay their way.


you are joking right?
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:01 pm to
I really believe the players deserve an "allowance" from the department, maybe $40 to $50 a week for pizza, burgers, and movies/dates. There was one player 20 years ago from my home town that was so poor that he had nothing. Dad did not work and mother was a fry cook in a 24 hr. grill. Probably got $1.65 an hour then. My dad bought him a suit for his all-state banquet because he did not have one. Nothing. We both gave him spending money sometimes because we wanted to. He did go on to the pros and settled in a major city far away, bought his parents a brick home, etc. He turned out good. He needed $50 a month to buy deodorant, toothpaste, shoes, etc. An allowance is needed. Another guy from our hometown came from parents that had good jobs and good income,he didn't need anything,parents made over $100,000. a year. He left LSU and became a coach and is successful. Some need it,some don't.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:03 pm to
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you are joking right?


between work outs, games, practices, film meetings. I am not joking.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:04 pm to
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When will College Football lose amateur designation?


Hopefully never, because the minute that stipends are instituted, college football will be put on a path to ruin. The moronic, self-righteous muckrakers in the media never actually consider the long-term implications of their sanctimonious, reactionary suggestions.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:08 pm to
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between work outs, games, practices, film meetings. I am not joking.


All while they dont go into large debt just to make it through college, not working anywhere from 30-40 hours a week all year on top of going to school, GET the best academic services and professional help the university has to offer. Nah bro, they got it real rough
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:15 pm to
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not working anywhere from 30-40 hours a week all year on top of going to school


So you think lifting weights, conditioning, practicing, watching film, going to meetings and competing in games that rake in millions isn't work?

How many waitresses got their ACL blown out? What percentage of barristas just have to stop working at the coffee shop because of too many coffee making related confusions?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:17 pm to
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How many waitresses got their ACL blown out?


How many of those injuries are completely voluntary? All of them

And how many of those dont allow them to move forward with their tuition?

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hat percentage of barristas just have to stop working at the coffee shop because of too many coffee making related confusions?


What % of these same barristas have to stop attending college because they cant afford it and the bank wont give them another loan?

At the end of the day these poor mistreated athletes get the best facilities and services every university has to offer all while getting to go to school for free. So yeah, millions are annually spent on them. Not just given to them so they can blow it on a sweet set of rims or a stack to throw around at the club.

You know what the best part is? More avg students getting their degrees will become big time boosters for LSU than just about any of those players. Not bc LSU paid them, but because of their love for the University.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:21 pm to
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How many waitresses got their ACL blown out?


How many of those injuries are completely voluntary? All of them

And how many of those dont allow them to move forward with their tuition?


So you don't think jobs should be payed differently based on value and hardship? Sure thing comrade.

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What % of these same barristas have to stop attending college because they cant afford it and the bank wont give them another loan?


So they have loans, and are working 40 hours a week and can't afford college? where is the money going to? i worked 20 hours a week and could afford rent and food, and i lived in a nicer place than i had to. If i was working 30 hours a week i could have afforded school work and food without loans.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:21 pm to
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If an athlete needs $500 a month in incidentals that should be a priority with what these players generate in income for the NCAA and schools they play for.


You realize that 95% of athletic departments lose money. How are they going to pay their athletes $500 a month?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:22 pm to
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At the end of the day these poor mistreated athletes get the best facilities and services every university has to offer all while getting to go to school for free. So yeah, millions are annually spent on them. Not just given to them so they can blow it on a sweet set of rims or a stack to throw around at the club.


Add it all up and it is a fraction of what they are making for the university.
they are probably costing the university 1 percent of what the university is making.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:23 pm to
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So you don't think jobs should be payed differently based on value and hardship? Sure thing comrade.


Being a college athlete isnt a job. It is a privilege.

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