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re: When will College Football lose amateur designation?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:24 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:24 pm to SammyTiger
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Add it all up and it is a fraction of what they are making for the university.
LSU athletes make money for the athletic department mostly and not the university as a whole
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:24 pm to TigerintheNO
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You realize that 95% of athletic departments lose money. How are they going to pay their athletes $500 a month?
thats departments, most football programs don't lose that. YOu sell out 1 game and you make enough to pay you football team 500 a month if you are paying them year round.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:25 pm to More beer please
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LSU athletes make money for the athletic department mostly and not the university as a whole
who do you think would be paying them the stipend?
not to mention the students they draw in who pay tuition. Look up the number spikes universities see in incoming freshmen after championship seasons.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:25 pm to SammyTiger
You just gonna say frick title IX and only pay football players? 
yeah that will work
Besides your reasoning, this whole argument is stupid because it will never happen. No university or athletic department has the funds to pay ALL of the athletes in every varsity sport a stipend because they will never be able to focus on just football.
yeah that will work Besides your reasoning, this whole argument is stupid because it will never happen. No university or athletic department has the funds to pay ALL of the athletes in every varsity sport a stipend because they will never be able to focus on just football.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:27 pm to More beer please
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You just gonna say frick title IX and only pay football players? yeah that will work
pay whatever teams are making money.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:29 pm to SammyTiger
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pay whatever teams are making money.
you have no idea how title IX works do youPosted on 9/11/13 at 2:32 pm to More beer please
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you have no idea how title IX works do you
There are also rules against paying players, so obviously some things would have to change. But if we are talking about should players get money, that isn't a factor.
We all know why they can't. Great rhetoric by the way
always prove a point. 
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:33 pm to More beer please
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:33 pm to SammyTiger
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There are also rules against paying players, so obviously some things would have to change.
an NCAA rule is not = to federal law
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:34 pm to SammyTiger
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They bring in way more than they get. Exponentially. They also work more than any student trying to pay their way.
That argument doesn't float.
Just 23 of 228 athletics departments at NCAA Division I public schools generated enough money on their own to cover their expenses in 2012.
Everybody worries that guys like JF at ATM are being used. What about the 3rd string DB that will NEVER make the NFL. If he's there 4 to 5 years, He's provided an education, food, room and board, contacts, and connections we could only dream of. I'm still paying student loans, all these years later. So save that crap. It's their own fault for not taking advantage of everything provided for there time and commitment.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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an NCAA rule is not = to federal law
not in the context of this conversation. Should we pay players? that is the question in a vacuum.
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Just 23 of 228 athletics departments at NCAA Division I public schools generated enough money on their own to cover their expenses in 2012.
were talking college football players here.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
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We all know why they can't. Great rhetoric by the way always prove a point.
When in an argument, point out when the other person is wrong even if it doesnt have anything to do with the argument. Then strictly focus on that
And I still think we shouldnt pay players and more than they are getting paid
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:39 pm to More beer please
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And I still think we shouldnt pay players and more than they are getting paid
i think they should have a little spending money. there are student out there who have student jobs that cover their housing and dining with a little extra cash, and i think they probably work less hours than the athletes put in.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:44 pm to More beer please
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You just gonna say frick title IX and only pay football players? yeah that will work
Besides your reasoning, this whole argument is stupid because it will never happen. No university or athletic department has the funds to pay ALL of the athletes in every varsity sport a stipend because they will never be able to focus on just football.
Not to mention that when you start paying players, they will have to pay taxes...Athletic dept's will lose their non-profit tax exempt status... the millions that boosters & season tix buyers donate will no longer be tax deductible...You will see Universities shutting down Athletic Dept's & going intramural...
Opening up a way bigger can of worms than most are thinking about by paying players...
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:47 pm to Curtiselwood
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Just 23 of 228 athletics departments at NCAA Division I public schools generated enough money on their own to cover their expenses in 2012
That's actually not true. It's an accounting myth because those schools are, by definition, non-profit. So they HAVE to break even or run in the red.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:50 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Most players get Pell Grants now in the $500.00 -$600.00 a month range. Most schools pay at least an $800.00/mth housing allowance to players who live off campus. That's why you'll see 4-5 guys rooming in an off campus apt or house that costs a $1200/mth with utilities....
i think they should have a little spending money. there are student out there who have student jobs that
There aren't any kids walking around hungry or without a few dollars in their pocket...
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:51 pm to chilge1
I think SMU and Miami took care of it decades ago.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:54 pm to Sophandros
Just a thought, do you think people could sue the NBA or NFL for having their age limits?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:55 pm to itawambadog
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Just a thought, do you think people could sue the NBA or NFL for having their age limits?
I know Maurice Clarett tried (and lost)
Posted on 9/11/13 at 3:05 pm to Wally Sparks
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I know Maurice Clarett tried (and lost)
Yeah I remember that case. I can see it happening again one day though.
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